NOW SOLVED: Guess what this is 7

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Alisdair

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NOW SOLVED: Guess what this is 7
« on: August 18, 2011, 11:28:50 AM »
I hope you don't have this invader in your vegetable patch - photographed in ours (in UK) this morning.
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Re: Guess what this is 7
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2011, 12:09:40 PM »
I think I know but I'll just say does the genera begin with P and the species begins with a?
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Re: Guess what this is 7
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2011, 01:06:52 PM »
I agree - it is P. a.; and I would go so far as to say Ph. am.
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I garden near Polis, Cyprus, 100m alt., on marl, but have gardened mainly in S.England

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Alisdair

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Re: Guess what this is 7
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2011, 05:08:56 PM »
John's clue is right, but Mike's follow-up takes you down a wrong turn - beware. Species name required!
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Re: Guess what this is 7
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2011, 06:02:27 PM »
Alisdair
I recognized it while i was taking a nap with my eyes closed.... ;D ;)
Phyt. aci.
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Re: Guess what this is 7
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2011, 07:12:37 AM »
Ah yes; quite right Oron - Phtyol. acino.
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« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2011, 07:26:48 AM »
Brilliant as usual, Oron! Phytolacca acinosa. We grew it originally from seed from Sikkim, planted out one plant. Birds distribute the seeds too liberally, and it is invasive (like its much better-known though less striking relative P. americana). Important to get the seedlings out in their first year as they develop very deep permanent roots.
This large perennial, growing to about a metre and a half, is quite a handsome plant, particularly in fruit. (And in the Himalayas they do boil the leaves as a veg, though we've never tried it.)
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« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2011, 11:14:49 AM »
I wouldn't feel tempted to eat anything from this plants, which is poisonous. The leaves are said to be safe to eat when young, but the toxins developing as they grow older. It has a lot of medicinal uses, from my own field I know it is being used to kill water snails that cause schistosomosis (bilharziosis).
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