Climbers for a hot & windy site

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GillP

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Climbers for a hot & windy site
« on: August 21, 2012, 01:26:53 PM »
Any recommendations for climbers for an extremely exposed hot, windy, east facing site with grotty clay soil?  Any thoughts appreciated.  Thank you
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pamela

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Re: Climbers for a hot & windy site
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2012, 05:27:42 PM »
Trachelospermum jasminoides, Bignonia ricosoleana, Hardenbergia comptoniana 
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Min temp 5c max temp 38c  Rainfall 550 mm 

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Re: Climbers for a hot & windy site
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2012, 06:57:57 PM »
You'll need to give the trachelospermum some summer water. We had one in a site similar to yours, but facing south-west, which thrived for years with a twice-weekly drip irrigation. But when we risked trying it without the irrigation, for a long hot summer, it died. By contrast, Jasminum officinale continues to thrive without water, in an identical site.
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GillP

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Re: Climbers for a hot & windy site
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2012, 08:01:29 PM »
Thanks for the ideas; Bignonia ricasoliana & Hardenbergia wouldn't be winter hardy here - needs to put up with - 10° but the Trachelospermum is a thought that I had so good to receive support for this idea, thank you.
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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2012, 06:14:08 AM »
Trachelospermum asiaticum withstands heat and wind better than the more commonly seen jasminoides but I find the scent rather overpowering and unpleasant at times as we have discussed on the Forum before. However scent is a very personal thing. ???
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Re: Climbers for a hot & windy site
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2012, 08:19:32 AM »
The Mediterranean Garden no.62 p.43 listed wind-tolerant plants. I'm not sure if that included any climbers, but it did include Tamarix spp. - which at a pinch might be pressed into service in a similar way (and they're impossible to kill by pruning). Just a thought.
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« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2012, 10:52:09 AM »
I would certainly try Campsis spp., Parthenocissus  grows on all walls and aspects,Hedera helix "Hiberica" grows happily especially in Southern Spain.
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« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2012, 10:56:54 AM »
Tecomaria capensis is quite tough, though we do water it once a week in summer. It is evergreen in our conditions but I don't know how it will cope with severe frost. Another one that springs to mind is Campsis radicans, which I have seen doing very well in exposed gardens here, but so far we have not been successful with it. Chiltern Seeds catalogue describes it as hardy in the UK. Do make sure you shade the roots of climbers with shrubs or mulch to mimic their natural environment.
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« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2012, 03:30:14 PM »
Parthenocissus can easily become too much of a good thing, and persistently so. Perhaps hot, dry and windy would keep it in check, not much else does!
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« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2012, 12:48:01 PM »
My neighbour has a campsis planted on the corner of his house. This is in a wind tunnel and catches all of the northerly winds.
My neighbour doesn't live in the house and the garden has never been watered. At least, not in the last three summers, since I have been here.
It grows well and flowers profusely every year.
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