[Alisdair]

David, Albéric Barbier fades to a definitely creamy white rather than a pure dead white. Hard for a photo to show, but yours looks almost pure white. Here's one I took a few minutes ago for comparison.

[Charithea]

Pallas, I was away when my Pierre de Ronsard opened but I took a picture when it was fading.  I am hopeful! The last few days it has been putting out two new shoots so maybe this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship.

[David Dickinson]

As I said in an earlier posting I took over a garden which contained very little other than 5 roses. Each of these was in the strangest position and I needed to move 3  of them. One I moved early spring this year has sent up a new shoot and that has given me two flowers. The  first opened while I was away and had already faded by the time the second opened. The previous owner obviously liked pink. 3 out of the 5 have now flowered resulting in 3 pink and  1 yellow. The last rose was moved about a month ago. It still looks alive but isn't doing anything yet. Will it be another pink?

[Charithea]

What a pretty delicate pink rose David.  Thirty minutes in our strong sunlight and it will look white.  I am posting two photos. One of Rosa moschata  and a Rosa moschata plena.  The first one is from our rose bush which has really settled down to producing lots of roses.  Both of our 'plena' have died but the photo here is from a acquaintance of mine through the village improvement group.  I was invited to see her highly perfumed roses but what caught my eye was this strong rumbling bush full of flowers.  It has came from northen Cyprus, from her village, and she now wants to get rid of it because it looks untidy. She planted a Stephanotis next to it as a replacement.  I of course volunteered to house the rose bush and advised her before attempting to dig it out to take several cutting to ensure it survival. There is only one other place where a Rose moschata plena can be bought and that is at the Kikko Monastery Nursery in Nicosia.  A lady that lives up the mountain propagates them and then sells them there.