Salvias

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Umbrian

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Re: Salvias
« Reply #135 on: May 24, 2020, 07:42:36 AM »
Another Salvia bought last year- Cavaliero Celeste. A rather more soft lavender blue  shade than it appears in the photo - very attractive and this year very floriferous.
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Charithea

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« Reply #136 on: May 24, 2020, 01:38:00 PM »
Looks very attractive Carole. I find I can not capture the colour blue easily.  They never come true on the photo.  I said that i would post some new Salvias that have flowered this year.  The white one is Salvia somalensis a very fast growing plant and very tough, the seedlings are this year's surviving plants that are doing well. They are Salvia amplexicaulis and the third is the surprise Salvia. I checked and rechecked and tried to match it with my seed labels and the salvia books. So if anybody knows please correct me. I narrowed it down to Salvia pratensis because of the way the branches divide and the colour of the flowers or Salvia forsskaolei as there is still a label with the name on it near it.
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Re: Salvias
« Reply #137 on: May 25, 2020, 05:59:05 AM »
The Salvia somalensis certainly looks a tough plant and although I love all the many different colours that Salvias provide, the softening touch of white is always welcome and helps to highlight nearby planting I feel.
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« Reply #138 on: May 26, 2020, 06:48:51 AM »
I took this photo just now of Thea's Salvia 'Alan Chickering' doing its thing.
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Re: Salvias
« Reply #139 on: May 26, 2020, 07:46:53 AM »
Love the habit and beautiful colour - one to look out for and a name that should stick!
Lovely close up of the flower John.
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Charithea

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« Reply #140 on: May 26, 2020, 12:00:37 PM »
I have to apologise for saying that Salvia somalensis bears white flowers. They Look white in the brilliant sunshine but actually they are 'lavender-blue' according to the book.
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« Reply #141 on: May 27, 2020, 11:47:41 AM »
Hi Umbrian,

If you do get a Salvia 'Alan Chickering' or (one of?) the parent plant/s S clevelandii, do a lot of research on summer watering. I have managed to kill 3 in 3 consecutive years by giving them summer water in pots. This year I dug up my S. 'Anthony Parker', transferred that to a large pot and put S 'Alan Chickering' in its place. I will water it a little while it is still flowering. I have to say, though, it has never looked in need of water. It is next to an established oleander and myrtle so I only hope it gets roots down deep enough to compete with them over the summer.

If you have a choice between S 'Alan Chickering' and true S clevelandii I would go for the later. The perfume from the leaves filled the garden with the mot wonderful scent without needing to be rubbed. I could smell a small plant from several meters distance as I walked into the garden. S 'Alan Chickering' gives the same perfume but I find I have to run my hands over the leaves first.
I have a small garden in Rome, Italy. Some open soil, some concrete, some paved. Temperatures in winter occasionally down to 0C. Summer temperatures up to 40C in the shade. There are never watering restrictions but, of course, there is little natural water for much of June, July and August.

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Re: Salvias
« Reply #142 on: May 29, 2020, 07:21:27 AM »
Visit to a local Lavender Viviao yesterday where there is also a good selection of Salvias. Nothing particularly out of the ordinary but usually something to tempt. I bought one new to me that caught my eye but as nearly always is the case here no labels in individual pots and I can't  find the hurriedly written note I made so will delay posting photo until I know the name. Meanwhile two general views of the nursery.
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« Reply #143 on: May 30, 2020, 01:07:08 PM »
Carole, I can not go into a Plant Nursery without buying something.  I find it annoying too that plants are not labeled.  I have labourisly collected this springs ' Salvia seeds but can not send them to the MGS seed bank  as I don't know their names.  The photographs on most sites don't show the whole plant or the shape of the leaves so it is difficult and inaccurate to settle on a name.   David is correct to say that Salvia clevelandii is more aromatic.  We have both.  The Salvia 'Allen Chickering get a lot more sun then the clevelandii.  Two of the clevelandii  are in poorer, better draining soil but get a lot of shade and they are sprawling.  The autumn arrival one is in sun most of the time.  I will wait until next year and see if I need to move the two. 
I garden in Cyprus, in a flat old farming field, alt. approx. 30 m asl.