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50cm tall, glaucous leaves, no flower [IDd as Nicotiana glauca by Hans & Oron]

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MikeHardman

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50cm tall, glaucous leaves, no flower [IDd as Nicotiana glauca by Hans & Oron]
« on: October 13, 2011, 07:15:36 AM »
I have just one of these, which is unusual as with most of my weeds I have hundreds of them.
Any clues?
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Re: 50cm tall, glaucus leaves, no flower yet
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2011, 08:13:19 AM »
Looks like Nicotiana glauca.
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Re: 50cm tall, glaucus leaves, no flower yet
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2011, 08:54:32 AM »
Yes, it is N. Nicotiana.
It is 50cm now but it is going to be about 3 meters next spring....
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Re: 50cm tall, glaucus leaves, no flower yet
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2011, 12:34:52 PM »
Thanks guys.
I see the dynamic checklist of the flora of Cyprus has it as 'naturalized invasive' in my district (http://160.45.63.151/dataportal/cyprus/?q=cdm_dataportal/taxon/02e2042d-38db-4e77-90a7-39eb8690af3b).
 
I am dubious whether it is garden-worthy. But it managed to look after itself unaided through the long dry summer and could be a useful contributor to slope stabilization (providing deep roots itself yet an airy canopy that would allow other plants to grow below and stabilize the shallower depths in the soil). I think I will give it the benefit of the doubt for now, and see how it goes.
...Unless somebody tells me to have it out pronto otherwise I'll never get rid of it or its offspring...
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Re: 50cm tall, glaucus leaves, no flower [IDd as Nicotiana glauca by Hans & Oron]
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2011, 02:29:57 PM »


Quote from: MikeHardman on October 13, 2011, 12:34:52 PM
....Unless somebody tells me to have it out pronto otherwise I'll never get rid of it or its offspring...

Mike,
Have it out pronto otherwise you'll never get rid of it or its offspring!!
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Re: 50cm tall, glaucus leaves, no flower [IDd as Nicotiana glauca by Hans & Oron]
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2011, 10:54:50 PM »
It is a native here in NW Argentina in dry winter regions. Invasive and capable of germinating in cracks in walls and as it grows breaking the wall apart.

Very popular as a folk medicine. The leaves' epidermis is carefully peeled and the fleshy surface left applied on burns, rashes, wounds. and any sort of skin problem. Reputed to be very effective in aiding healing.

I have seen it used in borders in the web as a short shrub (killed down by frost?)

In your dry climate I would make any effort to kill as many as I can.
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Re: 50cm tall, glaucus leaves, no flower [IDd as Nicotiana glauca by Hans & Oron]
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2011, 06:17:31 AM »
I thought the leaves looked familiar.
Three of four of these tall bushes grow along the edge of the boxed in dry river bed, here in Corinth.
They make a nice change to the graffiti covered cement and look quite pretty when the yellow flowers are out.
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Re: 50cm tall, glaucus leaves, no flower [IDd as Nicotiana glauca by Hans & Oron]
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2011, 05:05:57 PM »
Thanks folks.
It is no more.
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Re: 50cm tall, glaucus leaves, no flower [IDd as Nicotiana glauca by Hans & Oron]
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2012, 02:22:31 PM »
Invasive yes, but it is a pioneer here in many wastelands in Attiki/Greece... where no other small trees would grow, except maybe for Parkinsonias. Can its leaves be a substitute to tobacco? I see "tree tobacco" as vernacular name!!
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