Autumn colour

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David Bracey

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Re: Autumn colour
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2011, 04:18:07 PM »
Good point JTh .  Are there other species which grow at say sea level and some which grow at altitude ie Holomondas which we could compare.  What about in Israel Oron and Mike in Crete? I will ask Professsor Olate in Chile !
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Re: Autumn colour
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2011, 11:03:31 PM »
I'm at 100m (in Cyprus), but up in the Troodos there are some other opportunities for colour. I wonder about the cherries around Prodromos (1,400m) - thinking, despite it not being a fruit cherry, of Prunus sargentii's rich autumn colours. Also up there: Quercus alnifolia, which colours yellow in autumn. Maybe trunks of Arbutus. And the more ornamental Vitis, eg. Vitis coignetiae.

Update: These days, Prunus sargentii should be referred to as Cerasus sachalinensis [thanks Alisdair].
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John J

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Re: Autumn colour
« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2011, 04:24:32 PM »
I know the Melia azedarach has recently featured in another thread here but I took this photo this evening as the setting sun shone on the berries. A slightly different take on the autumn colours maybe but when the leaves won't provide it you have to get it where you can.
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JTh

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« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2011, 05:23:39 PM »
I have actually only seen proper autumn colours once in Greece, in mid-October, it was near the road to Arnea (probably around 500-600 m altitude) in the Holomondas, and it seems as if only the maples (Acer platanoides, I believe) showed these colours.
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Re: Autumn colour
« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2011, 09:00:13 PM »
Aah - Maples (and Dipteronia) - one of my favourite groups of trees.
While at Liverpool Uni. I collected a few hundred seeds from under a paperbark maple in Calderstones Park, aware of the low fertility (at least in the UK). I sowed 'em all and had about five germinate. The years took their toll, and I was down to one when I moved to Cyprus in 2009, reluctantly giving that one away (in a big pot) to a recently-discovered bonsai enthusiast. For a few years, I had had a miniature display of the deep red autumn foliage I had loved when seen in mature paperbarks.
Amur maple is another one I grew for its rich autumn colours; and I managed to root it from cuttings.
For a long-ago birthday, my ex gave me an Acer palmatum dissectum, which I dutifully tended, and which looked wonderful when its red leaves were wet with dew and backlit by the low morning sun.
Here in Cyprus, however, the native maples are in the autumn-yellow part of the spectrum.

But even with mainly yellows, you can make more of them by working with contrasts and with complements.
That's hinted at in this photo, which I took by Evretou reservoir in western Cyprus on 6jan2011. The yellow is provided by tamarisk, contrasted with green in the foreground, and complemented with the silvery twiggery beyond.


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« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2011, 08:38:46 PM »
Eduarto Olate in Chile replied: " Yes we have some species with nice fall foliage related all of them in the genus Nothofagus (N. obliqua, N. alpina, N. dombeyii and N. alessandrii and N. macrocarpa). Only N. macrocarpa is in the Mediterranean area of Chile. The other species are from our Cold Temperate climate in southern Chile (Lat. 35 to 50ยบ South)."
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Re: Autumn colour
« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2011, 08:50:05 PM »
David/Eduarto - Nothofagus macrocarpa: wow - I see what you mean!
http://floradechile.cl/dicotyle/species/fnomacro.htm

I think I noticed a Nothofagus in the  Eleouthkia botanical park near Mandria, Cyprus. It surprised me at the time - just seeing this genus here.
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Re: Autumn colour
« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2011, 09:35:47 PM »
Some Melia azederach are trying to put on a show now; these were in Steni today
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« Reply #23 on: October 16, 2011, 01:42:17 AM »
What a difference from one watering regime to another as here in the pampas of Argentina it is one of the best dense shade trees. The very dark leafless trees with masses of beige berries all over winter are very attractive as well. It has a an acid yellow autumn color that adds to it.

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« Reply #24 on: October 16, 2011, 03:14:06 PM »
Koelreuteria paniculata: seed pods terracotta and leaves turning orange.
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« Reply #25 on: October 16, 2011, 04:16:46 PM »
Kolreuteria is stunning with their terracotta-salmon capsules

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« Reply #26 on: October 16, 2011, 07:28:32 PM »
Unlike Melia this tree is good in London though not very common and it makes quite a large tree.
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« Reply #27 on: October 20, 2011, 08:37:46 PM »
Pistacia terebinthus and P lentiscus, Cotinus coggygria and the climber Parthenogensis all have strong autumn colours and are worth growing.
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Re: Autumn colour
« Reply #28 on: October 20, 2011, 10:06:42 PM »
David - I think you still have aphids on your brain!
Methinks you mean Parthenocissus.
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« Reply #29 on: October 21, 2011, 06:09:33 AM »
Snapped a couple of days ago in Corinth
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