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Colchicum

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Fleur Pavlidis

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Re: Colchicum sfikasianum
« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2011, 09:18:15 PM »
C. sfikasianum was named for our own George Sfikas who identified it in 1988. Kit Tan (Endemic Plants of Greece - The Peloponnese) says it can also be found in the southern Ionian islands and Attica.
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Re: Colchicum
« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2011, 09:35:28 PM »
Oron & Fleur - thank you
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Re: Colchicum
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2011, 09:37:46 PM »
Back to C. troodi again, I was fortunate to see some nice clumps of this in Cyprus after the AGM in 2009.
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Re: Colchicum
« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2011, 10:39:54 PM »
Another sign of autumn here in Halkidiki is the appearance of Colchicum, I always thought they were C. bivonae. The first ones this autumn were seen in the outskirts of the garden last week, I have not been able to photograph any of them yet, but here is an old photo taken 8 years ago just outside our gate. There are many of them in this region,  they vary a lot, so mayby there are different species? Some have more rounded petals like in the first photo and in the second, more cup shaped one, from the Holomondas (low mountains behind us), others seem to have more pointed petals (third photo, half way between our place near the coast and the Holomondas). The last ones looks more like C. macrophyllum, but they are not described in this region. Not that this always means that they can't be here, the place is more or less terra incognita when it comes to plant registrations
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Re: Colchicum
« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2011, 06:37:18 PM »
Wonderfull photos Jorun, in particularly C. troodii.
I agree with you that the last looks like C. macrophyllum rather then C. bivonae,
It would be very easy to have an answer when leaves are present.
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Re: Colchicum
« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2011, 07:24:52 PM »
I'm sure I won't be here when the leaves are out.
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Re: Colchicum
« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2011, 08:10:22 PM »
I think you should be careful in assuming you can tell a species from the leaves. On Crete I found what was obviously C. macrophyllum aan later I found it to be a huge leafed form of C. cupanii with pleated leaves!
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Re: Colchicum
« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2011, 10:07:36 PM »
Quote from: John on September 30, 2011, 08:10:22 PM
I think you should be careful in assuming you can tell a species from the leaves. On Crete I found what was obviously C. macrophyllum aan later I found it to be a huge leafed form of C. cupanii with pleated leaves!
Still, C. bivonae and C. macrophyllum have two distinctive leaves.
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Re: Colchicum
« Reply #23 on: October 01, 2011, 10:56:11 PM »
As far as you know!
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Colchicum psaridis
« Reply #24 on: October 24, 2011, 07:23:42 PM »
We are back in the UK after the Mallorca/Menorca meeting, to find a pan of Colchicum psaridis in full flower. This is my favourite colchicum. It's endemic to southern Greece, neat and elegant, and full of character. Its corms are rather long and sinuous, bending around horizontally like little black fish - that's probably how it got its name (psari is Greek for fish). They develop from colonising rhizomes, so in the wild the plant can form extensive patches - the first I ever saw spread for a couple of metres right across an isolated cobbled donkey path. And a big plus for me is the honeyed fragrance, sweet but not cloying.
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Re: Colchicum
« Reply #25 on: October 24, 2011, 08:01:49 PM »
Fantastic potful :o
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Re: Colchicum
« Reply #26 on: October 24, 2011, 09:10:41 PM »
Lovely!
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Re: Colchicum
« Reply #27 on: October 29, 2011, 05:49:10 PM »
Nai katapliktikos.
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Re: Colchicum
« Reply #28 on: October 29, 2011, 06:51:37 PM »
Thanks folks - I wish we could get scent to travel over the internet though!
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Re: Colchicum
« Reply #29 on: October 29, 2011, 11:39:53 PM »
I'm sure there is an app for that!
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