Re my last posting. I did finally get another Pineapple Broom for Umbrian but we haven't managed to meet up. It has been in a small pot for over a year now. All of the taller growth died back but it is constantly sending out new side shoots from low down. Encouraged by this I bought a second specimen last November and that is still in its pot waiting to be planted out. I will put it in an even shadier spot than the last one. How about yours John and Cerg? Are they still with you?