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Succulent ? ID'd by Miriam and Oron as Ledebouria socialis syn Scilla violaceae

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Rosie

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Succulent ? ID'd by Miriam and Oron as Ledebouria socialis syn Scilla violaceae
« on: October 25, 2012, 12:37:38 AM »
This plant is circulating here as a great little container plant with swollen bulb like stems and long spotty leaves of about 10 to 15 cm. It produces a long flower spike studded with small lilac/cream stars. It propagates easily from divisions. All comments gratefully received - especially as I would like to put some up for sale on our MGS Plant sales stand at the Garden Fair coming up soon on November 3rd.
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Miriam

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Re: Succulent or what ?
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2012, 08:56:07 AM »
Looks like Scilla violaceae.
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oron peri

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Re: Succulent or what ?
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2012, 09:59:04 AM »
Miriam you are right.
The accepted name is Ledebouria socialis syn Scilla violacea.
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Rosie

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Re: Succulent or what ?
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2012, 10:13:28 AM »
You beauties ! thanks very much indeed for this Miriam and Oron. I will pass the word around and the thing shall have a name henceforth, great stuff, thank you.
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Re: Succulent ? ID'd by Miriam and Oron as Ledebouria socialis syn Scilla violaceae
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2012, 08:56:19 PM »
I've grown this for a few years here in Cyprus, but also in a conservatory in the UK beforehand.
It is very well behaved and I find it quietly charming. But I did find snails/slugs keen on the leaves. It tolerates shade quite well.
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Mike
Geologist by Uni training, IT consultant, Referee for Viola for Botanical Society of the British Isles, commissioned author and photographer on Viola for RHS (Enc. of Perennials, The Garden, The Plantsman).
I garden near Polis, Cyprus, 100m alt., on marl, but have gardened mainly in S.England
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John

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Re: Succulent ? ID'd by Miriam and Oron as Ledebouria socialis syn Scilla violaceae
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2012, 02:54:18 PM »
I believe that there are no longer any Scilla left in South Africa now as they have all been separated into other genera. Even Scilla capensis which looked very Scilla like is now Merwilla plumbea and it seems it is not at all close to Scilla genetically. Is this right Oron?
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John
Horticulturist, photographer, author, garden designer and plant breeder; MGS member and RHS committee member. I garden at home in SW London and also at work in South London.
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Alisdair

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Re: Scilla capensis
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2012, 11:09:39 AM »
John, I think Scilla capensis is now thought of as Drimia capensis; it's Scilla plumbea, S. natalensis and S. kraussii which have instead been lumped together as Merwilla plumbea, but no doubt people will go on arguing about it!
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Alisdair Aird
Gardens in SE England (Sussex); also coastal Southern Greece, and (in a very small way) South West France; MGS member (and former president); vice chairman RHS Lily Group, past chairman Cyclamen Society
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