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Title: Guess what this is 27
Post by: John on January 22, 2012, 11:44:30 AM
Slightly unusual though I suspect someone will know it. I've not cropped too much this time to make it less difficult. Flowering now with me!
Title: Re: Guess what this is 27
Post by: JTh on January 24, 2012, 11:01:49 AM
I can't imagine you have red salvias flowering with you now?
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Post by: John on January 24, 2012, 11:35:58 AM
No I don't but Salvia roemeriana has only just finished flowering!
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Post by: Melvyn on January 24, 2012, 02:41:27 PM
Monarda?
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Post by: JTh on January 24, 2012, 02:53:13 PM
What's in bloom where you are does not help much, could be anything. Lobelia cardinalis or one of the other scarlet lobelias?
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Post by: John on January 24, 2012, 03:59:06 PM
Not Monarda and this time for me it is flowering later than before. It was outdoors until the frosts and then came in under glass.
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Post by: John on January 24, 2012, 04:01:01 PM
Many years ago I grew this plant from a cutting from the Chelsea Physic Garden. This plant was from wild seed given to me by Harry Hay.
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Post by: JTh on January 28, 2012, 04:37:25 PM
So this probably means that it must be from bulb of some kind?
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Post by: John on January 28, 2012, 08:07:53 PM
No it is not!
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Post by: JTh on February 01, 2012, 02:56:01 PM
A red salvia?
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Post by: pamela on February 01, 2012, 07:48:21 PM
Salvia dombeyi?
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Post by: JTh on February 01, 2012, 08:14:08 PM
Salvia coccinea?
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Post by: John on February 02, 2012, 12:32:26 AM
No, and no.
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Post by: pamela on February 02, 2012, 10:07:15 AM
This is intriguing!  Can you show a close up of the whole stem please?
Title: Re: Guess what this is 27
Post by: JTh on February 02, 2012, 10:39:17 AM
I suggested Lobelia cardinalis or one of the other scarlet lobelias a while ago, which I did not get an answer to, is this one out?
Title: Re: Guess what this is 27NOW SOLVED
Post by: John on February 02, 2012, 10:50:57 AM
Pamela, no not yet and actually I don't have a stem shot but may take one later if needed!
Jorun, no to Lobelia!
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Post by: John on February 23, 2012, 12:56:11 AM
OK Pamela here's a stem picture. You should get it now!
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Post by: John on March 01, 2012, 01:10:13 AM
Still struggling with such a clue!
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Post by: JTh on March 01, 2012, 09:14:06 PM
The stem did not help me much.
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Post by: John on March 01, 2012, 11:50:46 PM
It was supposed to help Pamela, not you!
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Post by: oron peri on March 02, 2012, 10:30:11 AM
What about Accanthus sennii.
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Post by: John on March 02, 2012, 09:08:24 PM
I should have known you would get it. Yes, correct. A love(ly) shrub even if it is very vicious.
Though this potted plant flowered well the bracts died just as it came out which wasn't very attractive!

Typing error, the love shrub bit!
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Post by: Alisdair on March 03, 2012, 09:52:59 AM
Wow, That's a super picture, John! (And I like your invention of this new gardening category, "love shrubs"....)
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Post by: Fleur Pavlidis on March 03, 2012, 06:12:18 PM
Just a minute, this is Acanthus senni, flowering in the MGS garden; it has pink/purple flowers and narrower leaves.
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Post by: John on March 03, 2012, 07:33:58 PM
No I believe this one is Acanthus arborescens? Certainly not A. sennii.
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Post by: Alisdair on March 04, 2012, 10:29:17 AM
The Sparoza plant's leaves are surely nothing like the leaves of Acanthus arboreus (syn. A arborescens). But I agree, its flowers don't seem nearly full enough for A. sennii. Does A. sennii vary very much?
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Post by: John on March 04, 2012, 11:21:58 AM
OK A. arboreus. I'm sticking with that for now until proved something else. What do the Israeli experts think? It's also quite likely that they grow quite a range of these east African species in frost free areas.
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Post by: oron peri on March 04, 2012, 08:03:48 PM
I also think the Acantus in Sparozza is A. arboreus, surly not A. sennii.