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Plants for mediterranean gardens => Climbers => Topic started by: Alisdair on October 24, 2011, 07:09:09 AM

Title: Ipomoea
Post by: Alisdair on October 24, 2011, 07:09:09 AM
To see Hilary's photo of Ipomoea x sloteri, a hybrid of I. coccinea and I. quamoclit, click here (http://www.mgsforum.org/smf/index.php?topic=466.msg2687#msg2687).
Title: Re: Ipomoea
Post by: JTh on October 15, 2013, 07:00:14 PM
We stopped at a small nursery on our way back from Thessaloniki today, and I saw this huge climber on their fence with lots of very bright red flowers, and very nice deeply cut, dark green leaves. I had no idea what it was, I have never seen this plant before, but the flowers looked like some kind of bindweed, and I found that it must be Ipomoea x sloteri, or cardinal climber. I was told that it dies down in the winter (since it is an annual), but will usually seed itself and grows very quickly, and that they would have some small plants for sale next spring. Does anybody have any experience with this plant?
Title: Re: Ipomoea
Post by: Jamus on October 15, 2013, 09:52:42 PM

Yes I've grown it from seed a couple of times. It's best as a container plant here because it gets going late in the season when the weather really heats up but it likes a lot of water. It's a gorgeous plant when grown well, but more tropical or subtropical I suspect. Water stress will result in a more diminutive example, but still beautiful. There's another one with more ferny finely divided foliage which is very attractive. Ipomoea quamoclit I think it is? I've grown both and I found the one you photographed easier, but that might have just been the season.

Title: Re: Ipomoea
Post by: JTh on October 16, 2013, 02:42:33 PM
Thank you, Jamus, it sound as if it may need more water than I can provide, given that I'm not here all the time. But if I see it for sale next spring, I suppose I shan't be able to resist.
Title: Re: Ipomoea
Post by: Fermi on April 02, 2014, 05:22:23 AM
Ipomaea lindheimeri is from Texas and I thought it was an annual but 2 of last year's 3 plants re-sprouted and eventually started to flower at the very end of summer,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Ipomoea
Post by: Alisdair on April 02, 2014, 07:29:40 AM
Nice leaves, too.
Title: Re: Ipomoea
Post by: John J on June 27, 2014, 06:53:40 AM
Earlier this year my wife sowed seed of Ipomoea tricolor 'Heavenly Blue'. This is the first one to flower.
Title: Re: Ipomoea
Post by: Charithea on July 23, 2014, 08:54:31 AM
Hi everybody! I am over the moon. I have succeeded in growing two Ipomoea quamoclit. They have flowered today for the first time! One brilliant red flower in each one. I shall follow David Dickinson's advice and collect the seeds when they are ready to share with others that wish to grow them. I shall make sure next year I put them in a more prominent place. John will post the photos later. I have not yet gone for my iPad lessons!!
Title: Re: Ipomoea
Post by: John J on July 23, 2014, 09:07:50 AM
Photos as instructed.
Title: Re: Ipomoea
Post by: Fermi on February 11, 2015, 08:14:59 AM
The Ipomoea lindheimeri seems to be getting stronger each year and flowering earlier as well!
This morning I took a couple of pics showing that the vines are getting higher up the supports and flowering well,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Ipomoea
Post by: Alisdair on February 18, 2015, 10:07:59 AM
Interesting to have a perennial Morning Glory! It's fragrant isn't it, Fermi? And dormant in winter rather than summer?
Title: Re: Ipomoea
Post by: Fermi on March 05, 2015, 08:32:01 AM
Alisdair,
sorry for the delay in replying.
I've not noticed a fragrance but I haven't stuck my nose into one for a closer inspection! Yes, it is in full growth in summer and dies to the ground in winter. It shares the trellis with sweetpeas so it seems to be a good combination, as long as I remember to remove the dead vines before the new ones start twining,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Ipomoea lindheimeri
Post by: Fermi on March 26, 2018, 10:26:45 AM
In their 5th year the Ipomaea lindheimeri are still doing well.
Today was cool and cloudy so the flowers have lasted all day.
We replaced the supports last year while they were in growth and so had to retrain the vines up the metal struts. This year they have raced to the top very quickly,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Ipomoea
Post by: Umbrian on March 27, 2018, 07:57:00 AM
 Beautiful Fermi - and I love the supports. This year I am trying several new Ipomea and hoping for great things. Not being my forte they are one of the few things I seem to have success with from seed. So far they are germinating well and I look forward to posting 'photos in the summer.
Title: Re: Ipomoea
Post by: John J on March 27, 2018, 11:13:14 AM
We have some Ipomoea starting to flower. I believe the dark one is 'Star of Yalta' but we don't have a name for the light one.
Title: Re: Ipomoea
Post by: Umbrian on June 06, 2018, 07:30:11 AM
Am growing Ipomea 'Black Knight ' this year and am very disappointed with the health of the plants. They have grown away well and started to flowers very early - beautiful colour, but the leaves are awful, turning yellow with mottling and obviously being eaten by something too- earwigs?
Title: Re: Ipomoea
Post by: Umbrian on June 06, 2018, 07:31:56 AM
Sorry for the poor quality of the 'photo but I think it shows the problem!
Title: Re: Ipomoea
Post by: Umbrian on August 30, 2018, 07:32:32 AM
Have had varying success with the different Ipomoea that I raised from seed this year but one has been a real triumph - Ipomoea ' Alba' - also known as the 'Moon Ipomoea'  I think ....
Several germinated but only one grew away strongly .....and grew and grew with large leaves but no sign of flowers. Then I noticed  large buds that seemed very slow to develop and have to admit I stopped showing much interest in it. The other evening we were returning home late when I was confronted with this huge white flower gleaming through the darkness as we approached our front door - my first flower on the Ipomoea ' Alba'! It was quite spectacular the flower being as large as my cupped hand and  I rushed to get my camera which was fortunate because in the morning it was already well past it's best.
After ' googling' it I discovered it is a night flowering variety and one with a perfume that I have been able to verify as subsequent flowers opened  - last night I had two blooms.
Quite the most exciting and unexpected thing I have grown from seed- I did once have a white flowered Ipomoea given to me by a friend - rather like " Heavenly Blue" in size and form but this one is amazing.
Title: Re: Ipomoea
Post by: Charithea on August 31, 2018, 12:39:58 PM
Beautiful bloom Carole.  I have tried to grow a large white one from the seeds taken from Cindy Evans's garden in Mallorca. It was the first time that I had seen such large blooms. I was unsuccessful so I bought seeds from England and had the same result. We do have Impmoea such as the common morning glory that rampages every where here in Cyprus.  I have it in a pot to restrict its roots and so far so good. A very successful Ipomoea is Star of Yalta, from the MGS seed bank. It grows any where it finds drops of water. It re seeds and regrows all summer through. It is accompanied by Ipomea quamocli. The quamoclit seeds germinate when the weather is really hot. Both suffer in the midday heat but recover later on in the evening. I am now experimenting with a new cool place for the Star of Yalta.  Under our enormous avocado tree.  I will update if the seeds germinate.
Title: Re: Ipomoea
Post by: Umbrian on September 01, 2018, 07:24:15 AM
This is Ipomoea 'Lutea' - a pretty shade of pale yellow and quite prolific flowering happily both in full sun and more shaded positions.
Title: Re: Ipomoea
Post by: Charithea on September 01, 2018, 09:29:58 AM
Very pretty and soft colour. . I maintain that I don't like yellow or orange and yet there are flowers of both colours in our garden and they are lovely.  Prejudice is not a good trait to have.
Title: Re: Ipomoea
Post by: Umbrian on September 02, 2018, 07:04:24 AM
A lot of gardeners profess to not liking yellow flowers but I love them adding bright splashes of colour. Perhaps the fashion for pale planting schemes involving many shades of pink and purple flowers, not to mention white gardens,  has made yellow difficult to include. Gardening is certainly subject to ' fashion' both regarding colour schemes and
'must have' plants. Since gardening in a Mediterranean climate I am more concerned with the viability of the plants I choose although do appreciate an harmonious result.
 A good topic for discussion I would think............
Title: Re: Ipomoea
Post by: John J on September 02, 2018, 09:08:39 AM
Good idea, Carole. For me, personally, here in Cyprus yellow means spring as the majority of the first flowers that open on the hillsides are yellow. Maybe that's only because they stand out more, but whatever the reason they are bright and cheerful.
Title: Re: Ipomoea
Post by: David Dickinson on September 02, 2018, 10:00:54 AM
I find that yellow often enhances blues, purples and whites. And, where would we be in early autumn without Sternbergia?
Title: Re: Ipomoea
Post by: Charithea on September 02, 2018, 04:09:34 PM
Ok. I give in.   All of you are correct. Yellow is bright  and cheerful and some flowers are amazing in that colour but every year I battle with Oxalis pes-caprae and there is a great dislike for that colour(tint ). And here is another paradox. I love my orange cosmos which is situated under the plum tree.  While it is in flower I check it and enjoy its beauty.
Title: Re: Ipomoea
Post by: Umbrian on September 03, 2018, 05:30:03 AM
It is interesting to consider why we have aversions to certain plants and flowers. Your explanation Charithea re Oxalis as to the reason why you are not fond of yellow flowers being a good example. I have found myself ' disliking' certain plants merely because they featured in every garden that I knew as a child growing up in a row of terraced houses each with a long narrrow garden where Chrysanthemums, Dahlias, Michaelmas Daisies, Anemone japonica etc etc featured. Since  in most cases these  gardens were the domain of the men, who grew vegetables, it would seem likely that such flowers were perhaps grown for cutting.........Anyway I shied away from many of them for a long time - too easy to grow?, snobbery - too common?
I remember suggesting to a friend, whom I was helping to create a garden here in Italy,
to use Cotoneaster as a screen close to his car parking area. He turned his hands up in horror " Oh no " he said "My father planted that everywhere"
With encouragement he relented and we alternated it with Eleagnus ebbingeii. He now has a wonderful evergreen hedge.
Title: Re: Ipomoea
Post by: Charithea on September 04, 2018, 01:12:58 PM
I bet you have a happy friend Carole. I loved Cotoneasters in the dull winter light of England but here in Cyprus they look washed out. I considered the above topic and it is relavent to why I chose some of our trees and bushes. I associate them with happiness and love . A Morus alba  because I played and had siestas under the shade of one in the long hot dusty summers in my childhood. The adults were working to take us to the near by beach to cool us down so our natural cooler was a very large shade tree.  Eleagnus  angustifolia is associate with the coolest garden I knew. The tree's orange ripe fruit glistened in the sun in early October. The tree was the gate way to Mr Panayis' garden. He had the luxury of water from the village acqua duct that carried it to the Castle and also a well to draw water out in the dried months. He was an old bachelor who used to solder back the legs of  the primus  stoves around the neighbourhood.  I was always willing to run errands there. I was allowed to walk around the garden under the conditions of not stepping on or cutting the flowers. Sadly the garden is no more. It was torn out and holiday homes have been built.  Still when our tree flowers and the garden is awash with its perfume I think of that old man and his garden.
Title: Re: Ipomoea
Post by: Umbrian on October 22, 2018, 05:20:49 PM
Further to my post regarding Ipomea ' Lutea' . Having  some Ipomea plants over and no longer having any idea exactly which variety they were, I planted one at the base of a quite big Salvia lavandufolia that I subsequently trimmed back quite a bit. The Ipomea was rather forgotten until quite late in the summer when I noticed it had begun to weave itself through the Salvia and shortly after produced its first flower - a small yellow one revealing that it was a 'lutea' A few showery days in September saw it flourish and now it is looking really pretty. I am afraid my 'photo does not really do it justice but I shall certainly plant some Ipomea under some early flowering shrubs next year as I think the effect is quite pretty  and gives renewed interest later in the season.
The small flowered varieties seem most suited as their growth is quite delicate. Ipomea
'coccinea' is another that could  look quite stunning with its small bright red flowers.
Title: Re: Ipomoea
Post by: Hilary on October 23, 2018, 06:17:57 AM
The flowers look like lights on a Christmas tree
Lovely
Title: Re: Ipomoea
Post by: Charithea on October 23, 2018, 04:44:17 PM
Carole , I agree with you. They do complement the host plant.  I have a Ipomoea quamuclit growing over a plant. I will post the photo when we return from the AGM in Spain.
Title: Re: Ipomoea
Post by: Umbrian on October 24, 2018, 06:28:53 AM
Hadn't thought of that comparison Hilary but you are right and this plant did a good job of winding itself around the Salvia rather than just climbing as they do when planted against trellis or sticks. It is also a prolific flowerer which adds to the effect.
Title: Re: Ipomoea
Post by: David Dickinson on December 11, 2018, 03:11:18 AM
On a different note but still relating to Ipomea, I noticed that the seed heads of Ipomea "Star of Yalta" (thanks for the seeds Charithea :-)) have a distinct and very rigid bend in the stems making them point to the ground. Very convenient for the seed but, given the size and weight of each seed, I wouldn't have thought this would be of any advantage to the plant as the seed would fall immediately to the ground anyway.