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Plant identification => Plant identification => Topic started by: fragman on September 02, 2011, 09:02:34 AM

Title: Narcissus IDd tentatively by Oron as a N. papyraceus mutation
Post by: fragman on September 02, 2011, 09:02:34 AM
This Narcissus popped out in our botanical gardens, can onyone tell which one is it ?
Title: Re: Narcissus ID
Post by: John on September 03, 2011, 02:51:05 PM
Why hasn't Oron identified this yet?
Title: Re: Narcissus ID
Post by: oron peri on September 03, 2011, 10:19:57 PM
Because he is repoting...


Ori
This is realy peculiar, i have never seen something similar.

I think there are two possibilities, hybrid [natural or men made] the second is a mutation.

If it is an hybrid one of the parents in order to give this form  should be either N. triandus or N. virdiflorus and the second either a tazetta or a papyraceus [if technicaly possible, depend on chromosome number].
As far as i know you do not have the first two species  in the garden?
The second possibility can be a mutant of N. papyraceus but that would be easy to decide only by the typical scent of this species.

By saying 'pooped out' do you mean in the open ground or in between the bulb collection?

Off course i dont exclude any other option, it is a mystery, but if it is not yet a registrated hybrid, it might become a good commercial plant for its unique form!!
Title: Re: Narcissus ID
Post by: John on September 03, 2011, 11:46:36 PM
I would also say the second of Oron's choices would also be mine.
Title: Re: Narcissus ID
Post by: fragman on September 04, 2011, 06:33:15 PM
thanks, the plant popped out outside in the garden, but not far from the bulb collection. It is rather badly scented (like N. papyraceus), but has much smaller flowers.
As Oron wrote, it cannot be a hybrid with triandus of viridiflorus, I'm sure it belongs to the papryraceus complex. I just wanted to exclude a known species.
Title: Re: Narcissus ID
Post by: Alisdair on September 23, 2011, 06:11:31 PM
It does look like N. papyraceus with a mutation very similar to the "stargazer" one that has produced some unusual upward-facing cyclamen flowers.