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Plants for mediterranean gardens => Fruit and Vegetables => Topic started by: John J on September 17, 2015, 05:37:49 AM

Title: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: John J on September 17, 2015, 05:37:49 AM
My wife recently suggested that perhaps a thread dedicated to the various fruit and veg that are grown by members would be something to consider. I realise that previous threads have mentioned several of these already but perhaps it would not be a bad idea to resurrect some of them and for members to perhaps tell us about ones that they grow.
I went around our property yesterday and took a few photos of what is being produced at this time of year. I'll start the ball rolling with our Mango. This was grown from a stone brought to us by a friend from UK when she came for a visit several years ago. She is originally from Jamaica and had been given the fruit by a relative who had visited her from there. She ate the fruit and brought me the stone! The tree took around 8 years from germination to first fruiting, producing just 2 fruit at the first attempt. Since then it has averaged around 20 fruit per year, until this year when it has again set only 2. We can only put this down to the fact that we had a prolonged spring this year with late rain and high winds during the period that the fruit normally set.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Mango
Post by: Joanna Savage on September 17, 2015, 05:55:18 AM
John, that is an excellent idea to be talking about fruit and veggies. Re. Your mango, does it have a good flavour? It looks as though it would be delicious. I ask because, when I was living in the subtropics, seedling mangoes were not highly regarded and it was barely worth the trouble of growing them because of the 'turpentine' taste of the fruit. If  mangoes are cross pollinated perhaps the chances of getting a good one are much better in Jamaica than in southern Queensland.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: John J on September 17, 2015, 08:34:48 AM
Joanna, when the mango first germinated and began to grow I looked up all the info I could find about growing them from stones. The general consensus of opinion seemed to be that they took at least 8 years to reach fruiting size and that even then the fruit would be very stringy and taste of turpentine, just as you mention. Well, when the tree was 2 years old it suddenly went dormant, literally went into suspended animation. For the next 2 years it did nothing, didn't die and didn't put on any new growth. Then, suddenly it burst back into life and at around 8 years old it set 2 fruit. We watched these grow larger and begin to change colour, hardly daring to breathe in their vicinity, until one day I grew impatient and touched one of them. It came away in my hand. My wife and I then sat and stared at it for some little time before eventually taking the bull by the horns and tasting it. I must admit that it was rather stringy but I wouldn't describe the taste as turpentine. It may not have been the best mango I've tasted but I'd certainly say it was passable. The rest have been of similar quality.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Psidium cattleianum
Post by: John J on September 18, 2015, 04:59:33 AM
Thought we'd have something a little different today, Psidium cattleianum (Strawberry guava). Grown from seed it has made a small bush that produces bunches of marble-sized fruit that turn red when ripe. I find the taste a tad tart but with a possible hint of strawberry.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Marrow
Post by: John J on September 19, 2015, 05:04:15 AM
Turn of the veggies. It may not win many beauty contests but it's a fair size.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Alisdair on September 19, 2015, 08:26:28 AM
Crikey, John, what a whopper! Is it a particular cultivar?
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: John J on September 19, 2015, 09:57:44 AM
Alisdair, I have no idea of its provenance but they are common here in Cyprus where they are known as 'glykokoloko' (sweet marrows). When young and small they are cooked with fresh black-eyed peas and oil. When left to get this size they are used to make 'kolokotes', a sort of sweet pasty. Chunks of marrow, bulghar wheat, raisins, salt and pepper to taste and a touch of sugar, wrapped in pastry and baked in the oven. As they are vegan they are popular during the winter fasting periods, especially.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: David Dickinson on September 19, 2015, 10:36:07 AM
Thanks for the recipe idea John. Always on the lookout for vegan ideas  :)
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Fresh & Free
Post by: Alisdair on September 19, 2015, 11:05:15 AM
Quite a coincidence that today's veg is that marrow. Each Saturday when Helena and I are in UK and we have a glut in our veg patch, with our neighbour Laurie down the lane we set up a stall for anyone to take what they want, for free. Today's crop is a bit "mediterranean", as besides the marrows/courgettes (and the flowers) there's not just spinach, Swiss chard, corn on the cob and parsley, there's basil, aubergines/egg plants, peppers and even melons.
(One day when we've more time we'd like to try expanding the idea among all those other people who might have surplus produce, with a "freshandfree" website where anyone could put in their post code and a map would come up with their closest Fresh & Free stall...)
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: John J on September 19, 2015, 04:46:51 PM
I'm not sure that your scheme would work here, Alisdair, but then again there has long been a tradition of friends, relatives and neighbours sharing their excess produce. One of the most popular items that we get requests for is below.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Squash
Post by: John J on September 20, 2015, 04:32:42 AM
Staying with veg we have Butternut squash, or Cucurbita moschata to give it its correct name I believe.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Bergamot
Post by: John J on September 21, 2015, 05:04:35 AM
Today's fruit is Citrus bergamia the oil of which is used to flavour Earl Grey tea. The ones in the photo are not yet ripe of course.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Zizifkia
Post by: John J on September 22, 2015, 04:34:20 AM
Not many people, myself included, would normally list Eleagnus angustifolia as a fruit, however, here in Cyprus it has its followers. The same size and shape as an olive, peeling off the brown skin reveals a large stone surrounded by flesh that has the look and texture of cotton wool. Obviously it's an acquired taste that I, frankly, have never acquired.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Limequat
Post by: John J on September 23, 2015, 04:58:37 AM
A rather unusual citrus, the limequat is a hybrid between key lime and kumquat.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: David Dickinson on September 23, 2015, 08:15:01 AM
Hi John

Is the limequat used for anything? I have friends who make a good marmalade from kumquat. I say "good" in that it comes out as good as Italian style orange marmalade but I have to say that to my taste Italian marmalades are a bit too sweet. In my experience Italian jams, on the other hand, tend not to be. All a matter of taste, I suppose.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: John J on September 23, 2015, 09:11:53 AM
David, I have to confess to not having a lot of personal experience of this fruit, we only acquired our tree last year. Apparently they stay quite small and so are suitable for growing in containers. Info says they are more cold hardy than limes, down to around 10*C. We have found the taste to be similar to lime, a sort of bitter-sweet, acidic taste. It seems they are suitable for making marmalade or for juicing.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Arbutus unedo
Post by: Joanna Savage on September 23, 2015, 05:02:31 PM
This is a much colder garden in Toscana than John J's delicious looking fruit orchard in Cyprus. However, here is an Arbutus unedo just beginning to redden and looking fat after good rain. They look better than they taste.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg/Herbs of the day - "Greek basil"
Post by: Joanna Savage on September 23, 2015, 05:06:21 PM
And here is a pot of so-called (by the nursery)  Greek Basil, ready to be cut and dried in a cool place for winter pasta dishes.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Medlar
Post by: John J on September 24, 2015, 05:04:05 AM
Joanna, thanks for those and for reminding us that herbs deserve to be included in this category too.
Our Mespilus germanica is grown more for its ornamental value than for its fruit. These need to be subjected to a period of cold, even frost, before becoming softened/ripe enough to eat, a process known as bletting. This can be done artificially by storing them in the fridge for a while but we've never found it to be worth the effort.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day (limequats)
Post by: Caroline on September 24, 2015, 06:58:06 AM
I have a whole hedge of limequats across the end of the veggie garden, put in to provide a screen.  They have been in about 4 years, and are now cropping really well. In response to David's question about using them,  I make a good sour marmalade and recently tried a hot chutney which is delicious.  More generally, I substitute the juice for either lime or lemon juice (a mexican lime squeezer helps as they are very "pippy").
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Myrtle
Post by: John J on September 25, 2015, 04:48:47 AM
The myrtle is one of the plants that is associated with Aphrodite, she who was born of the sea off Paphos. When she emerged from the waves she hid her nakedness behind a myrtle bush.
Providing bowls of myrtle berries on a dining table so that the diners could chew them in order to freshen their mouths and taste buds between courses is another of those traditions that has largely disappeared.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Pomegranate
Post by: John J on September 26, 2015, 08:24:54 AM
The pomegranates are ripening nicely, soon be ready.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: John J on September 26, 2015, 02:41:46 PM
In fact one variety is ready as the birds have already discovered! Anyway, we can't begrudge them a few as there should still be plenty left for us.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Joanna Savage on September 26, 2015, 06:03:44 PM
John, how do you eat your pomegranates? I was intrigued by the idea of pomegranate juice when I was in Iran. It crops up in many dishes.How on earth does one  extract juice from a pomegranate?
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: John J on September 27, 2015, 04:52:50 AM
Hi Joanna, pomegranate juice is available commercially but my wife's sister makes her own. You need a variety that is full of juice, more flesh than pip, put the seeds into a blender/liquidiser and strain the juice.
As for eating them we usually add them to salads. For instance, mix them with rocula, sun-dried tomatoes soaked in vinegar, olive oil and balsamic vinegar to taste.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Fig
Post by: John J on September 27, 2015, 04:59:54 AM
We've been enjoying a daily ration of figs for a few weeks too. ;)
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Fermi on September 27, 2015, 11:39:06 AM
Our current (newly minted) Prime Minister, Malcolm Turnbull, was on a program a year or two ago called "Kitchen Cabinet" and revealed the secret of peeling the pomegranates into a bowl of water, the fleshy pips sink and the inedible pith floats.
Who knows where his wisdom will lead our country :-\
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Alice on September 27, 2015, 06:55:02 PM
John, how do you eat your pomegranates? I was intrigued by the idea of pomegranate juice when I was in Iran. It crops up in many dishes.How on earth does one  extract juice from a pomegranate?
Joanna, to get the juice I treat them like lemons. Cut in half and extract the juice using a manual or electric juicer.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Grapes
Post by: John J on September 28, 2015, 05:05:09 AM
We don't have many vines and I have no idea what the variety is but they provide us with a few bunches of small, sweet fruit every year.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: SusanIbiza on September 28, 2015, 08:59:46 AM
We cut the pomegranate in half crosswise, then whack the outside smartly with a wooden spoon (kept your fingers out of the way).  Do this over a bowl so that you don't waste any of the juice.  The seeds are delicious in salads and as a finish to cous cous and many Mediterranean dishes.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Olive
Post by: John J on September 29, 2015, 04:45:21 AM
Olive picking time is approaching once more. In our village it is traditional not to begin picking until after the Festival of the patron saint, in this case St Luke the Apostle, whose name day is 18 October. So that's a job that will be waiting for us when we return from this year's MGS AGM on the island of Ischia, Italy.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Acca
Post by: John J on September 30, 2015, 04:39:52 AM
Back to something a little more out of the ordinary, Acca sellowiana (Pineapple guava). Not an ideal fruit for us to grow as we cannot offer it the best conditions. It needs more water than we can give it for the fruit to swell and a period of colder weather than we experience for them to ripen properly. However the stunning flowers are a bonus well worth having.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Pecan
Post by: John J on October 01, 2015, 04:32:23 AM
Not ready yet but it won't be too long before they begin to split open. I believe the one we have is a variety known as Mohawk.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Avocado
Post by: John J on October 02, 2015, 04:56:45 AM
Apologies for the quality of the photo. The tree was grown from a stone and rarely produces fruit but has become so large that it provides some quite substantial shade, so much so that I've made a small seating area under it.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Sideritis
Post by: John J on October 03, 2015, 07:28:17 AM
OK! I admit it, I'm stretching the boundaries here. This is Sideritis perfoliata traditionally used here, and I believe in Crete, to make 'mountain tea'.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Sugar cane
Post by: John J on October 04, 2015, 06:16:32 AM
This is my current, rather pathetic, specimen of Saccharum officinarum. Since coming here to live permanently we have tried to keep a sugar cane plant growing as a reminder of part of the history of the village. Sugar cane was brought to Cyprus from the Holy Land by the crusaders. Our village (Kolossi) was the headquarters of the Commanderie of Kolossi created by the Knights of St John of Jerusalem (Knights Hospitallers). Vast areas of the surrounding land was given over to growing sugar cane and in the 13th century a Mill and Factory was built to process the sugar ready for shipping to northern Europe. The second photo shows the mill with the top of the later Castle (built 1454).
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Lemon grass
Post by: John J on October 05, 2015, 09:34:40 AM
Another sorry-looking specimen I'm afraid. This time of Cymbopogon citratus. They don't seem to do too well with us, probably not getting enough water.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Guava
Post by: John J on October 06, 2015, 07:27:25 AM
Back to the more conventional fruit. A tree that appeals to 3, possibly 4, of the 5 senses. It's aesthetically pleasing with attractive bark and beautiful flowers. The ripe fruit smell as good as they taste. As for the 4th sense, the feel of the smooth, fresh bark is not unpleasant.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Persimmon
Post by: JTh on October 06, 2015, 08:52:44 AM
My neighbours have left, but they have a persimmon tree with ripe fruit, I didn't very feel guilty when I tasted a couple of them, they were very sweet.

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P9300334 Persimmon-Diospyros kaki .jpg (https://flic.kr/p/z34VFp) by Jorun Tharaldsen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/46063510@N03/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Herbal twosome
Post by: John J on October 07, 2015, 04:56:12 AM
Pots of Mint and Chives close to the kitchen door area.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Malabar spinach
Post by: John J on October 08, 2015, 04:52:38 AM
Ok, going out on a limb again!   
Basella rubra can apparently be used very much like conventional spinach. It can be eaten raw in salads but is more often steamed or used in soups, stews, stir-fries, etc. I have to admit that we have not tried it as yet but my wife has declared that one day it's going into a stir-fry, so watch this space! :P
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Ginger
Post by: John J on October 09, 2015, 05:15:49 AM
Ginger, easy to grow and great used fresh.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Lemon
Post by: John J on October 10, 2015, 09:38:02 AM
Just because they're pretty common is no excuse to ignore this or any other of the citrus. :D
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Bitter orange
Post by: John J on October 11, 2015, 02:33:47 PM
We don't use the fruit but keep the tree for springtime scent and because my wife's late mother used to collect the flowers to make 'glyko'.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day -Loquat
Post by: Caroline on October 12, 2015, 12:18:57 AM
This loquat Eriobotrya japonica sprang up uninvited not far from the house.  I have never tried the fruit, and don't plan to unless someone can persuade me that I am really missing out on a treat.  The wood pigeons gorge themselves at a time when there isn't much else for them to eat, and I figure their need is greater than mine :)
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - loquat
Post by: John J on October 12, 2015, 09:53:02 AM
I have to admit Caroline that your fruit do look a little less than appetizing. :-X
I tend to eat ours straight from the tree. Suck the flesh out from the skin and spit out the stones. Sorry, sounds a bit disgusting put like that! :-[
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Sage
Post by: John J on October 12, 2015, 09:55:35 AM
In addition to its more common uses here in Cyprus they make a tea from it.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Lemon Balm
Post by: John J on October 13, 2015, 04:40:08 AM
Our patches of it suffer in the heat of the summer but spread when the cooler weather comes. We don't use it for anything other than as a pleasantly scented ground cover.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: John J on October 13, 2015, 06:42:08 AM
I have to make a correction to the above post, having been reprimanded by my wife. :-[ She does use lemon balm on occasion along with lemon verbena to make a tea that is refreshing when drunk cold.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - loquat
Post by: Fleur Pavlidis on October 13, 2015, 08:49:36 AM
You are really missing out on a treat!! You can pick them slightly under ripe and leave them to ripen in the fruit bowl, although straight from the tree is best if the birds allow it. My two trees grown from seed form a selected tree have been hit by a nasty disease and the fruit each year blackens and shrivels. I'm bereft.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Rue
Post by: John J on October 15, 2015, 04:46:08 AM
Oops! Seem to have skipped a day on this, can only put it down to external pressures.  :-[
A bit of a cheat on this one as I can guarantee we don't use it for anything but maybe other members do.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Lemon verbena
Post by: John J on October 16, 2015, 08:45:22 AM
Aloysia triphylla (syn. Aloysia citrodora) is the other ingredient, along with Lemon Balm, of a refreshing cold tea, as mentioned in a previous post.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Mandarin
Post by: John J on October 17, 2015, 05:24:07 AM
Back to citrus. Our mandarins are not yet ripe of course, 4 year old granddaughter likes to pick them and eat them straight from the tree when they are. I don't use sprays of any description so this is quite safe.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Quince (Cydonia oblonga)
Post by: JTh on October 17, 2015, 10:04:43 PM
The quince is ripe here now,  beatiful to look at, but needs some preparations before it is edible.

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PA100769-Edit Cydonia oblonga.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/zBzSf1) by Jorun Tharaldsen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/46063510@N03/), on Flickr

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PA100770 Cydonia oblonga.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/yFDy8s) by Jorun Tharaldsen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/46063510@N03/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: John J on October 18, 2015, 04:56:10 AM
Jorun, thanks for that 'lead in'. Oct 18th is the day of the patron saint of our village (Apostle Luke) and from 2 days prior the streets are filled with the stalls of the vendors of an assortment of produce and products. One of the traditional purchases of the housewives and cooks was quince from which they made 'glyko' and 'marmalada'. This year we had already received a large bag of them from a friend who lives in a village further up the mountain. After being used to make the 'glyko' seen below the remainder of the fruit were wrapped in silver foil and cooked in the oven before being skinned and de-pipped. The flesh was then used together with mountain apples, known as 'kathista', and made into apple crumble. Some of which is still in our freezer.  :D
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Bλήτα - Amaranthus viridis
Post by: JTh on October 19, 2015, 02:50:54 PM
Not just a weed, but a valuable 'horta', which can be used like spinach. It is now back again, ready to be harvested. And it's free.

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PA151075 βλήτα - Amaranthus viridis .jpg (https://flic.kr/p/zM1W8m) by Jorun Tharaldsen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/46063510@N03/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Charithea on October 20, 2015, 05:30:04 AM
Hello Jorun, I always order 'Horta' when visiting Greece. I first ate 'Amaranthus veridis' in Heraklion Market in Crete and being fond of 'grass' continued to eat it when available. It grows also here in Cyprus but it is never offered on the menu. It is available in some supermarkets but it does not have the same demand as in Greece. I think it is because it has not got the exciting look for instance of asparagus.
Title: Fruit/Veg of the day - Basil
Post by: David Dickinson on October 23, 2015, 08:34:04 AM
Is Basil veg? Mine is coming to the end of its season in this unusually cold spell in Rome :'( I hope that the seeds I have taken from this plant will produce plants with stems as deep purple as this one. Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Sweet chestnuts
Post by: John J on October 30, 2015, 06:33:17 AM
Not mine but in the garden of a friend near Rome who we visited on the way back from the AGM in Ischia.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Laurus nobilis
Post by: John J on November 14, 2015, 01:45:23 PM
Sometimes things are just so obvious that you miss them, like our Bay tree. :-[
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Rosemary
Post by: John J on November 15, 2015, 05:51:11 AM
......and how could I possibly miss the Rosemary ???
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Loquat
Post by: John J on November 16, 2015, 05:41:58 AM
We return to the loquat as ours are coming into flower now. Even if you don't eat the fruit you can still enjoy the scent of the blossom.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Fleur Pavlidis on November 16, 2015, 08:30:17 AM
Absolutely overpowering from our two trees, like a room full of soap bars.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Parsley
Post by: John J on November 17, 2015, 05:49:49 AM
Spreads prolifically, puts down very long, tough roots. Acts as a host for the caterpillars of the Swallowtail butterfly in addition to its normal duties in providing greenery for domestic use.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Tagetes lucida
Post by: John J on November 18, 2015, 05:49:14 AM
Tarragon, attractive flowers as well as being a useful herb.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: JTh on November 18, 2015, 11:55:55 AM
That does not look French tarragon, Artemisia dracunculus, isn't it Mexican tarragon, Tagetes lucida?
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: John J on November 18, 2015, 03:35:13 PM
I may be wrong, Jorun, but I'll stick with Artemesia, at least until I've had a chance to investigate it further.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Caroline on November 19, 2015, 08:17:09 AM
I think Jorun is correct, John, in identifying your plant as Tagetes lucida, which does have yellow edible flowers and can be propagated by seed.  French tarragon -Artemisia dracunculus- doesn't set seed (indeed I have never seen even the hint of a flower) and has to be propagated vegetatively.

Mexican tarragon is supposed to survive better in hot conditions and have a stronger flavour than the French stuff.  I once mistakenly grew Russian tarragon -A. dracunculus ssp dracunculoides - which is much more vigorous than the French version and got totally out of control.  Some sort of moral for our times there, maybe...
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: John J on November 19, 2015, 08:35:47 AM
I've obviously been guilty of believing what I read on the Internet, having found several photos of a plant similar to mine that were labelled as Artemesia dracunculus, without looking more closely into it. Having now done so I see that it is indeed Tagetes lucida. So, thanks, Jorun, for putting me right on this, and Caroline, for your insightful input, on all levels.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: JTh on November 19, 2015, 05:17:37 PM
Which shows you can't always trust the internet, John.

I have both the Russian and the French variety of tarragon in my garden in Oslo, the first one is much taller and more vigorous, but it isn't too difficult to keep it under control. When it is fresh, the taste of the Russian tarragon is OK, but there is no flavour when it is dried. The flowers are inconspicious, and does produce seeds, while the French variety is totally sterile, I have never seen any flowers, but it is easily propagated by divison.

It would be interesting to try to grow the Mexican tarragon in Greece, I have never seen or tasted this one. We have just prepared a small vegetable patch which is ready to be planted next spring. Did you grow it from seeds?
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: John J on November 20, 2015, 05:46:23 AM
I don't see any reason why you shouldn't, Jorun, ours is in full sun for much of the day. We didn't grow them from seed but got them from a local 'garden centre'. I'll try to find out how they got them, but you know how it can be getting useful info out of some of these places. If I find anything helpful I'll let you know.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: JTh on November 20, 2015, 02:46:38 PM
Thank you, John
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Sweet potato
Post by: John J on November 23, 2015, 10:49:18 AM
We've tried growing Ipomoae batatas several times and had lots of foliage but this is the first time that one has flowered.
The second photo shows the foliage of another variety that I believe is known as 'Blackie'. This produces lots of foliage each year but has yet to flower.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Joanna Savage on November 24, 2015, 06:15:05 AM
John J, do you cook and eat the tubers of the sweet potato?
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: John J on November 24, 2015, 11:22:56 AM
Actually, Joanna, we don't grow enough of them to produce a viable crop. We use them for ornamental purposes, mostly in pots, and really to see what the flowers look like. We've eventually found out about one of them, now for the dark leaved one, which is actually much darker than it appears in the photo. Maybe one day we'll plant some in the ground, give them adequate water and see if we can get enough to make at least one serving!
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: John J on November 24, 2015, 11:28:22 AM
Jorun, I've been to one of the more reliable garden centres and found that he gets his Mexican tarragon from a supplier here in Cyprus. He can get me some, probably by next spring, but then we have the problem of getting them to you! I go to Athens every 3 months or so but that's still a long way from where you are, both in Norway or Halkidiki.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: JTh on November 24, 2015, 11:58:56 AM
Thank you, John, you are right, Athens is a long way from Halkidiki. If this is available in Cyprus, I would guess it may be found in Greece as well, so maybe I should try to find it there first. We are coming back to Greece in the spring, I'll ask the owner of our local garden center if he can get it, he is very interested in drought-tolerant plants. I see there is a company in the US that sells seeds, might be worth trying.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: JTh on November 24, 2015, 12:10:13 PM
I actually see that the Swedish company Impecta sells seeds of Tagetes lucida as well, I buy most of my seeds from them, they have an enourmous selection of seeds from all over the world. I'll try that, it seems as if this plant is easily grown from seed.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: John J on November 24, 2015, 01:44:30 PM
I forgot to mention that we spotted some actual French tarragon while we were there and picked up a couple so that we can compare their drought tolerant potential with that of the Mexican one.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Thyme
Post by: John J on November 28, 2015, 12:01:39 PM
One of the many varieties of thyme. This one is Thymus citriodorus 'Variegata'.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Globe artichoke
Post by: John J on December 03, 2015, 08:22:01 AM
Beginning to appear along our western boundary hedge.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Cape gooseberry
Post by: John J on December 05, 2015, 05:45:37 AM
Physalis peruviana, only a small plant but doing quite well so far. The seeds came from the MGS garden Sparoza.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Miracle tree
Post by: John J on December 16, 2015, 08:12:16 PM
I'm stretching the boundaries here with this tree. It isn't one that I recall encountering before. This morning I paid a visit to the home of someone who has introduced a growing method that I believe is new to the island, it's certainly new to me. Actually I was carrying out a recce prior to planning a Branch visit. I won't go into detail as I am hoping to write an article for the MGS Journal about this so MGS members at least will be appraised of the subject. While the owner and I were walking around the property he pointed out some small trees and encouraged me to try the flowers and leaves. This was the so-called Miracle tree (Moringa oleifera). Apparently it has been given the common name due to the nutritional value of almost all of its parts, especially the leaves it seems. Having looked it up on the Internet it would indeed appear to live up to the name, if all that has been written about it is factual. There is far too much info for me to list it here and I leave it to readers of the Forum to investigate it for themselves and make their own judgements. I was very generously offered a seed pod, which I accepted, and intend to attempt to grow a 'Miracle tree' of my own. I'll keep you posted of developments.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Fermi on December 20, 2015, 12:31:07 AM
Hi John,
your pics reminded me of what my dad grew in India and Hong Kong as "Drumstick Tree"and I see that Mr Google gives it the same botanical name.
I must see if it is available here,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: John J on December 20, 2015, 06:11:34 AM
Hi Fermi,
I saw the same common name for this tree when I was looking it up. I don't recall ever coming across it in Singapore. The guy I got the pod from says he grows them quite easily from seed and I'll be going back to see him in the New Year but I don't suppose your strict Aussie rules will allow the importing of seeds by post or I could maybe send you some?
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Avocado
Post by: John J on January 18, 2016, 11:30:40 AM
I wasn't sure whether or not to post this on wildlife in the garden as something has certainly been at it! >:(
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Almonds
Post by: John J on February 20, 2016, 05:21:35 PM
Almond blossom time again though sadly the tree is not ours but is in a field at the edge of the village.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day - Limoncello
Post by: John J on February 25, 2016, 12:06:46 PM
OK, I know Limoncello is not a fruit but is the product of one of our most prolific fruit trees, the lemon. My wife produced the ones shown using the recipe provided by MGS member, Helene Pizzi, and reproduced on the MGS website by our web editor, thanks Fleur.  :)
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Fleur Pavlidis on February 25, 2016, 03:41:59 PM
All your recipes for your garden (or hedgerow) produce would be very welcome for this website page www.mediterraneangardensociety.org/fruitandveg.html (http://www.mediterraneangardensociety.org/fruitandveg.html). Thea has added her own crumble recipe using the giant marrow pictured above.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day -tomatillo or Mexican green tomato
Post by: Caroline on March 05, 2016, 08:51:04 AM
Someone was asking what to do with Mexican green tomatoes (Physalis), apart from making fresh salsa - sorry I can't find the thread.   It's also possible to make a cooked salsa (green tomatoes, garlic, onion and chili), whizzed up in a blender/processor then cooked briefly in a small fry pan with a little oil. Delicious on top of bread, cheese and avocado, put under the grill, or as a sauce in tacos with shredded meat.  I imagine it would freeze well (never had enough left over to try!).
 :)
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: John J on October 10, 2016, 08:25:37 AM
Not a bad crop on our Medlar tree this year despite the lack of winter rain.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Fermi on November 03, 2016, 12:50:22 PM
We've never had much luck with cauliflowers but this year decided to try one of the purple varieties with our first decent cauliflower ever!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: John J on June 03, 2017, 01:12:58 PM
Some time ago I posted a photo of Sideritis perfoliata growing in our garden. Here in Cyprus we have an endemic Ironwort, Sideritis cypria that grows in a very few locations in the Pentadaktylos mountain range in the north of the island. It is listed in the Red Data Book as Endangered. Today I was fortunate enough to see one for the first time in the garden of a friend. The general difference between the two plants is quite striking.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Joanna Savage on June 04, 2017, 05:23:05 AM
Hello John, there are three species of Sideritis on this garden, cypria, phlomoides and syriaca. All plants came from Gerard Weiner, pepiniere Vaugines at Lucca Murabilia 2016. So far all seem to be flowering well so I could send seed to you in due course if you would like it. They are now growing in a pot with sharp drainage and plenty of sun as I lost a previous S. cypria in winter. It is one of my favourite grey leaved plants.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: John J on June 04, 2017, 07:34:08 AM
Joanna that would be fantastic and very generous. If you could let me know when you have any seeds ready I'll send an email with my address. Thank you.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: John J on June 15, 2017, 06:52:07 AM
Not a single fruit of the day but the result of my wife's early morning walk around the garden.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: David Dickinson on June 15, 2017, 10:20:19 AM
Lucky you. Last year the plum tree was full of fruit - most of which was eaten by Monk Parakeets - but this year frost killed all the flowers and I have not even one plum. The lemons too suffered. Many of them have mushy areas in them which are brown. Also due to frost damage. On a positive note, the new lemon crop is starting to develop now.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Fleur Pavlidis on June 26, 2017, 06:28:48 PM
David and John, can you give some advice to Sandy about apples and pears?
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: David Dickinson on June 27, 2017, 02:38:09 AM
I have just seen this today by clicking on "recent unread posts". Clicking on "unread posts" throws up nothing so there is something amiss.  In answer to your question, I am afraid that I am not much use. I inherited a garden with two lemon trees and one plum tree. Even with those I have little idea of how to prune them etc. I have no knowledge of either apple or pear trees I'm afraid  :)
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: John J on June 27, 2017, 05:05:10 AM
Fleur, I assume you are referring to Sandy who posted on 'Apple tree woes'? Personally I would not even attempt to grow pears here as we can experience temps as high as 40 degrees in summer. I mentioned on the above post that we do grow a variety of apple that has a proven record of surviving these conditions. Once picked the fruit does not keep well and needs to be used within a reasonable period of time, so they are generally used for cooking rather than as conventional eating apples.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Fermi on January 28, 2018, 03:25:05 PM
Not quite "fruit of the day" but the promise of things to come - hopefully!
Watermelon 'Sugar Baby' is starting to set fruit,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Fermi on February 10, 2018, 05:40:20 AM
Two weeks later and we have harvested our first 'Sugar Baby' watermelon - but the one in the pic above is a smaller variety called 'Golden Midget'!
Here's a pic comparing the two
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Fermi on March 06, 2018, 03:57:13 PM
We bought a chilie plant from an Italian couple at a local market earlier in the season and it is now in fruit.
A friend tasted one when it was yellow and said it was very hot. We're not game to try them now that they've gone red :P
Not sure what it is exactly as it's not one I've grown before.
Anybody got an idea?
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Caroline on March 06, 2018, 09:53:13 PM
Nearly four years living in Mexico gave me an interest in the different varieties of chili.  I have just tried to find the booklet I had which was very comprehensive, but it looks as if I threw it out in a fit of decluttering.  However I still have two posters on the kitchen wall and your photos Fermi most closely match "Scotch bonnet", which is ranked at 9 to 10 on the "heat" scale, which goes from 1 to 10.   If that's what it is then I would regard your plant as purely ornamental!
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Fermi on March 07, 2018, 10:36:57 AM
Thanks, Caroline,
Just as well they look pretty ;D
This year we didn't need to plant Cucumbers as they came up from the compost!
We've just picked the first cuke from the 3rd bed in which they've germinated!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: John J on September 01, 2018, 09:41:41 AM
This year we thought we would experiment with growing sweet potatoes. I dug these up this morning.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Alisdair on September 23, 2018, 07:54:24 AM
Very impressive! (wish I liked the taste as much as "real" potatoes)
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Caroline on September 23, 2018, 10:36:06 PM
The trick is not to think of them as potatoes, which I suspect is how they are treated in the UK.  I like kumara (i.e. sweet potatoes)  in a 50/50 mash with potato and lots of garlic, around a roast of lamb, or BBQed.  For the latter, boil in their skins, then cut into slices and char-grill with a little olive oil.  Delicious.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Hilary on April 10, 2020, 07:24:13 AM
Asparagus officinalis, ESPARRAGO, ΣΠΑΡΑΓΓΙ

This plant was in the area of the Royal Botanic Garden, Madrid where there were examples of plants grown for commercial reasons.

I don't think there is an article in THE MEDITERRANEAN GARDEN mentioning this kind of Asparagus but while searching I came across this  article which will interest those  who want to grow fruit and vegetables
SYNERGISTIC GARDENING(PARTII) by Jenny Bussey
THE MEDITERRANEAN GARDEN number 8, Spring  1997
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Alisdair on April 11, 2020, 10:47:10 AM
Hilary, Here in Sussex we picked our first asparagus of the year yesterday, for supper last night. We're having an unseasonable warm spell - warmer here at the moment than Greece! - and it's suddenly shot up just in the last very few days; it's starting two or three weeks earlier than usual.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Hilary on April 11, 2020, 12:15:47 PM
ΚΑΛΗ ΟΡΕΞΗ
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Alisdair on April 11, 2020, 03:35:05 PM
Thanks, Hilary; they were delicious! Here's today's crop, which went to our neighbour Derek
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day Strawberries
Post by: Hilary on May 14, 2020, 05:32:56 AM
Strawberries, Fragaria x ananassa

Strawberries are in season, at last some variation in the five a day fruit

My mother sent me the kit for the tapestry cushion cover as a birthday present, I kept seeing adverts for these kits in magazines and fancied making at least one.
 
The nursery rhyme is from my children's second hand book of rhymes. I am sure the girls nowadays don't mind washing the dishes and would rather be looking after the pigs than sit at home sewing, sewing, sewing.

Strawberries are mentioned in THE MEDITERRANEAN GARDEN number 89, July 2017
A VISIT TO SOUTH AFRICA, PART 2:
PRIVATE AND COMMUNITY GARDENS by Valerie Whittington
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: John J on May 14, 2020, 07:06:25 AM
From a purely negative point of view I don't think she'd stay healthy and maintain that figure on the diet prescribed. She'd probably end up diabetic and fat, with all that sugar and cream, and no exercise.  :(
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Charithea on May 14, 2020, 10:23:26 AM
Our strawberry season is already over. I love your embroidery. I have a patern which includes spring flowers and the Crupina crupinastrum is in it. I intend to do it Sometime when I have time to relax. I used to  do  'Lefkara lace'  during the siesta hours,  as a form of  enforced rest from long distance running in my younger years but now my fingers are not longer nimble I stick to easier things.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Hilary on May 14, 2020, 04:12:22 PM
For those who are interested in embroidery there is a short YouTube film in English called Lefkara lace and the same one in Greek called LEFKARITIKO KENTIMA


Among my mother-in-law's things there was this tablecloth embroidered with what looks like a simple version of Lefkara lace

I use the tablecloth once or twice a year on high days and holidays
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Charithea on July 09, 2020, 01:16:31 PM
Finally our Physalis peruviana are ripe enough to eat.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Umbrian on July 10, 2020, 07:59:38 AM
Standing in to do watering of pots  at a friend's house brought the added job of harvesting Redcurrants - 5lbs from just two bushes. I used to have both red and black currents in my former large garden but never had a crop like this in nearly 20 years🤔
I think the spell of very wet weather we had in late May/early June helped to swell the berries.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Charithea on July 10, 2020, 03:33:58 PM
Wow!  What are you going to do with all these fruit? They vines are always available in the nurseries in the early spring  but I learnt the hard way and no longer buy them.  They do well up on the mountain villages.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Umbrian on July 11, 2020, 07:44:29 AM
At the moment they are in the freezer because as I said they came from a friend's bushes. I shall no doubt be given some and so perhaps some Jelly making in on the horizon!
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: John J on November 09, 2020, 04:39:26 PM
Our persimmon are beginning to ripen, though personally I don't like them.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Umbrian on November 10, 2020, 07:32:24 AM
Same here John - the birds enjoy them though. 😊
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: John J on November 10, 2020, 08:41:04 AM
The birds here don't seem to care for them either, they prefer our guavas and pomegranates, which is annoying because those I do like.  >:(
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Umbrian on November 11, 2020, 07:34:41 AM
Very strange - this year several of my pomegranates  split open on the tree but the birds don't bother with them....
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Charithea on June 28, 2021, 07:38:12 AM
I love this wonderful custom we have here in our village.  It has been going on for years. It is the exchange of vegetables and fruits grown in our gardens/yards.  The things that are mostly grow this time of the year are Aubergines, peppers, chilies and courgettes.  The courgette flowers are the most sought after as they are used for light lunch.  The flowers are sold in bunches in the shops. They are filled with rice, grated carrots, zuchini and mint and then either cooked on the hob or steamed.  I was presented with a bunch this morning by my Syrian friend,  and also with some veg. In exchange he got a good morning , a thank you and a happy smile.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Fermi on June 30, 2021, 02:29:06 AM
My sisters came up from Melbourne to pick olives - we managed about half the crop before they had to leave (with lunch in between!).
They tell me that it came to 17 kilos.
They also collected a few pomegranates and medlars
cheers
fermi                             
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Charithea on June 30, 2021, 07:55:56 PM
Hi Fermi. What are you going to do with your olives? 
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Fermi on July 01, 2021, 06:29:27 AM
Hi Fermi. What are you going to do with your olives?
We're not doing anything!
My sisters have the harvest and are going to preserve them in different ways. They just tried some that a Greek friend preserved in rock salt which they decided were very good and not as onerous to prepare! We'll get a few jars returned to us. We'll look for rock salt to try with our remaining olives.
What sort of preserving do you do, Charithea?
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: David Dickinson on July 01, 2021, 08:51:34 AM
When I lived in Cairo , the olives were disappointing. One type, prepared in one way and take it or leave it. The link here takes you to a list of the main varieties in Italy. And this is before we even think about how to prepare them.

https://www.eataly.com/us_en/magazine/how-to/a-guide-to-olive-cultivars/
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Charithea on July 01, 2021, 02:56:26 PM
Rock salt has been the customary way of preserving olives here too as long as I remember Fermi.  Preserved olives were a must in every household to have around for the 'fasting periods'.  My mother and her younger sister were very strickt  on what was permitable  to eat during those  religious periods. My sister,  who is now 83, has been doing the family olive preserving.  I have been the 'monkey' on the olive trees to reach the shiny olives. My sister does some with the rock sold to use them for making olive bread, the others pickled in vinegar, my preferred olives, and the other traditional way of selecting fresh green olives, hitting them with a stone, keeping  them in water for about 7-10 days, changing the water every day  to get rid of the bitterness and then in brine. They are served with lemon, oil, garlic and dried coriander.  Last October she taught our London born and bred nephew how to cure his olives.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Charithea on July 01, 2021, 03:01:56 PM
David, I like Italian olives very much. We were in Bologna for my sister's 80th birthday and her husband insisted on buying and trying out the Italian olives. He said they tasted better then ours. He also likes Kalamata olives. I was always instructed to bring back olives for him on our trips to Greece.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Charithea on July 01, 2021, 03:20:52 PM
Some of our vegetables. They are not plentiful like in most vegetable gardens but I am happy with what we have.  Grown from seed.  Australian beet, Cyprus tomatoes, Florence fennel, hot peppers and oregano bought in a small pot from the village nursery.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Fermi on July 15, 2021, 02:23:52 AM
The latest crop to be harvested is broccoli!
Not huge heads but enough for a meal,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Umbrian on July 15, 2021, 12:51:30 PM
Best like that- small- enjoy! Tomato season here but Blackbirds causing havoc 🙄
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Charithea on July 16, 2021, 03:55:46 PM
Firmi the broccoli we grow in Cyprus is  normally  greeen or slightly greyish. I like the purple colour. We managed to grow some a few years.  The flower heads were not nice and compact like yours. It seems here that the climate is best suited for zucchini , large marrows and aubergines.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: David Dickinson on July 16, 2021, 09:39:41 PM
In Italy anything from the "cabbage" family will have various local names and they all tend to get mixed up anyway. Consequently, it can be a real problem to understand exactly what you are going to get in a restaurant! In Rome, if you are offered "broccoletti", dig deeper.   Are you being offered:

cut up Green Cauliflower (cavolfiore verde)
 https://ilsicano.com/99-medium_default/broccoli-siciliani.jpg

cut up Broccolo Romano
https://www.ortofrutticolalamapaola.it/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/prodotti_broccolo-romano3.jpg

Broccoli siciliani
https://www.biosolidale.it/public/articoli/brsi_0.jpg

Broccoletti Romaneschi
http://www.ortodigiobbi.com/agricoltori/media/com_hikashop/upload/broccoletti.jpg

or

Brocoletti Cima di Rapa?
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/191511690365-0-1/s-l1000.jpg

If you haven't tasted pasta  with either  broccolo romano or cime di rapa then, sorry folks, you haven't lived.

Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Fermi on July 17, 2021, 02:57:02 AM
Hi David,
Brocoletti Cima di Rapa is something we first discovered a few years ago.
I found a packet of seed which we'd saved and sowed it quite thickly thinking that the viability would have diminished over the intervening years. Looks like every seed has germinated! We'll have to thin out vigorously!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: David Dickinson on July 17, 2021, 07:04:05 PM
Hi Fermi

Cime di Rapa can come with a health warning. The long fibres play havoc with the digestive system in some.  If you are having them with pasta and you are susceptible, there is an easy solution. Drain them well  and refry them in olive oil with garlic and chilli. Then put them in a blender and render them into a pesto-consistency paste to mix with your pasta.

I tend to cook them with very little water. If you prefer the boiling method, save the water to cook your pasta in!
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Charithea on July 18, 2021, 10:26:04 AM
What an interesting subject the broccoli turned out to be.  While doing my degree in London years ago,  I worked 3 evenings a week in a Sainsbury supermarket.  After an hour of passing items through the check out I used to get bored so and I would try and find things to keep me going. I remember telling customers that the 'Broccoli' florets obeyed the Fibonacci rule!  David, I have tried all the types of broccoli except Brocolotti Cima di Rapa.  I eat most of my vegetable raw or lightly cooked so that would not be cooked by me. I am posting some photos  of our vegetables. The ones with all the greenery is my nephew's vegetable garden.  His late father used to grow veg in his London garden but my nephew  has never ever dug a hole to plant anything.  He has returned to Cyprus and to our surprise he has taken to growing veg.  He is very proud of his success.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Charithea on August 28, 2021, 03:10:39 PM
While photographing the Cerinthe I thought to send a photo of our pomegranate trees that are full of fruit.  Every year we share our fruit with the birds but the last few years the tree rats  are having  most of the fruit.  I can not cut them yet because they don't mature until October and since I don't like putting down any poison  I just complain a lot. Finally a photo of our two pumpkins.
Title: seasonal fruit
Post by: Charithea on August 28, 2021, 03:45:00 PM
These photographs were taken  on the third week of August on the Troodos mountain area.  The fruit of the Rosa canina (Troodos Botanic Garden) is ripe and the otherCastanea sativa seen  in Kyperounta are still growing.  Both are wonderful sights for me as they Chestnuts don' grow at our low altitude and the Rosa canina although it grows here never reaches the beauty of the ones up the mountains.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: John J on August 29, 2021, 07:26:44 AM
Our Strawberry guavas, Psidium cattleianum, are beginning to ripen.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Fermi on September 09, 2021, 09:49:09 AM
Hi David,
Brocoletti Cima di Rapa is something we first discovered a few years ago.
I found a packet of seed which we'd saved and sowed it quite thickly thinking that the viability would have diminished over the intervening years. Looks like every seed has germinated! We'll have to thin out vigorously!
Just picked a few Brocoletti Cima di Rapa, young Silverbeet (Chard) and coriander to cook for our dinner
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Charithea on September 09, 2021, 04:11:15 PM
They look so fresh.  Soon we should be able to buy  fresher looking veg.  Enjoy them.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: John J on September 13, 2021, 06:07:26 AM
Not the fruit but the flower of one of our Dragon fruit. The bees certainly seem to appreciate it.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Hilary on September 13, 2021, 06:32:20 AM
Dragon fruit !
Something to look up early in the morning !
I was thrilled to find I even had a photo of them, long unidentified
A market in  Vienna in October  2006
The Dragon fruit are those bright red things on the bottom right of the photo
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: John J on September 13, 2021, 09:26:24 AM
Those are the ones, Hilary. Have you tried them?
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: Hilary on September 13, 2021, 11:14:28 AM
No we have never eaten Dragon fruit but every time we go to Spain, note the optimism here,  we eat Chirimoya,, the green fruit next to the Dragon fruit in the photo.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: John J on September 13, 2021, 12:01:51 PM
Yes, I know the Cherimoya, often referred to as Custard Apple. There are also Star fruit in your photo that we used to get in Singapore, they sometimes appear in shops over here but we haven't bothered with them. One fruit from Singapore that I would like to get, but have never seen outside the Far East, are Rambutans. Our daughter was 4/5 years old when we were there and she loved them.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: David Dickinson on September 13, 2021, 12:28:17 PM
When I lived in Malaysia rambutans were amongst my favourite fruit too. For some inexplicable reason, the fruit in Kuala Lumpur was nearly always sold unripe, even on the street stalls selling ready-cut portions to eat on the go. On the coast it was a different story with beautiful ripe, juicy and tasty fruit available everywhere.

The nearest taste I can get to rambutans or lychees here are nespole. Funnily enough, they too have a large seed and little flesh. Wondering if they were related I googled it. Nothing came up but there is a page, in Italian, where the nutritional values of the two fruits are compared. Unexpected pair of fruits to compare!

https://fruits.nutriarena.com/it/rambutan-e-nespole-benefici/comparison-69-55-3
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: John J on September 13, 2021, 03:04:54 PM
David, nespole was a new one on me until I looked it up and found they were loquats. We have a couple of trees in our garden. When you were in Malaysia did you ever acquire a taste for Durian? We always knew when they were in season as the streets of the city centre reeked of them, people carrying them were not allowed on public transport.
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: David Dickinson on September 14, 2021, 12:47:12 AM
Hi John,

Durian do smell, don't they. Not allowed in several places in Malaysia, I recall. Hotels being one of them. I did eat them on occasion and the taste was okay. I have to be honest, overall, tropical fruit (in my humble opinion) is not a patch on Mediterranean/European fruit. Mangos and pineapple would be the exception. I wouldn't be without cherries, peaches, melon in summer and oranges and crisp, sweet, juicy apples in winter - whoever "invented" floury apples?! Ugghh!!! . Just imagine, after a week lost in a desert, stumbling across a fridge. Using every last ounce of your strength to heave the door open, you come across a sweet, ripe water melon. Which tropical fruit could match that?
Title: Re: Fruit/Veg of the day
Post by: John J on September 25, 2021, 06:22:29 PM
Not exactly fruit of the day, but some of the ones that we have on our trees at the moment.
We have already been enjoying the Figs, Strawberry guava, Pomegranates and Passion fruit.
Still to come are the Guava, Persimmon, Avocado and Mango.
We have a good crop of Medlar but hardly ever bother to go to the trouble of finding ways to get them to ripen.
Our Walnut produces very few nuts as the temperature at this altitude is not to its liking, they much prefer the climate higher up the mountain.