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Plants for mediterranean gardens => Bulbs (including other geophytes with corms, tubers, rhizomes etc) => Topic started by: Fermi on August 29, 2014, 03:24:29 PM

Title: Babiana
Post by: Fermi on August 29, 2014, 03:24:29 PM
Another genus of South African bulbs  which does well here!
Babiana pygmaea is one of my favourites,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Babiana
Post by: Trevor Australis on August 30, 2014, 12:07:56 AM
You are weeks in front f me with this one. Mine are not even showing buds yet. But it is a huge favourite with me.
Title: Re: Babiana
Post by: Fermi on September 14, 2014, 02:15:17 PM
Here's Babiana cedarbergensis
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fermi
Title: Re: Babiana
Post by: Fermi on September 18, 2014, 12:34:34 PM
Apologies for the poor pic, but this is another species, Babiana villosa in a dark red form,
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fermi
Title: Re: Babiana
Post by: David Dickinson on September 19, 2014, 02:24:45 AM
Does anybody have the names of any suppliers in Europe? I have found a couple of species on offer but not a great selection. I found one supplier in Greece with bulbs selling at around €10.00 each which might indicate their scarcity in Europe. After seeing the pics here I looked through pics of as many as I could find on the internet. I would be interested in finding any of the following.

Babiana
stricta (white),
rubrogynaea,
villosa,
hirsuta,
thunbergii,
pygmaea,
ecklonii,
purpurea and
framesi.

Thanks
Title: Re: Babiana
Post by: Fermi on September 30, 2014, 01:07:54 PM
These are probably hybrids of Babiana stricta which are quite common in gardens in Southern Australia
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fermi
Title: Re: Babiana
Post by: Trevor Australis on October 01, 2014, 07:24:34 AM
We were in the Clare Valley on the w/end and saw scads of Baboon Root naturalised in heaps of places - on road verges, in vineyards, old churchyards, cemeteries, municipal parks, railway cuttings etc. Mostly between the two Fermi showed BUT SOMEWHERE in this garden are white ones I rescued from Summertown cemetery about 40 yrs ago. Such willing and beautiful Spring bulbs. I've also rescued some samples from the great drifts of them around Keyneton in Die Alte Barossa where an early settler family must have planted hundreds of them in the early 1840's - the family are McGloughlin's, still there on their original estate.
Title: Re: Babiana
Post by: David Dickinson on October 01, 2014, 08:20:47 AM
I have found seeds of the following at http://www.rareplants.es/shop/search.asp?strKeywords=babiana&submit=SEARCH

Babiana odorata, pygmae, villosa & thunbergii There are some others too. Thanks to all who posted the photos which have prompted me to try them :)
Title: Re: Babiana
Post by: Fermi on October 01, 2014, 01:08:35 PM
... Thanks to all who posted the photos which have prompted me to try them :)
Glad we could help, David ;D
Also have a look at http://www.silverhillseeds.co.za/ (http://www.silverhillseeds.co.za/)
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Babiana
Post by: Fermi on October 07, 2014, 12:51:25 PM
Babiana spathacea is long and lanky and I have 2 forms, one cream and the other white, both with purply-red marks (bee-lines) in the throat,
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fermi
Title: Re: Babiana
Post by: Fermi on November 07, 2014, 01:58:13 PM
Two weeks later the Babiana spathacea were in full flower - they've taken a few years to get to this size,
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fermi
Title: Re: Babiana
Post by: Fermi on August 25, 2015, 08:24:29 AM
The first of the Babianas in our garden this year are some seedlings of Babiana odorata, but they may've been hybridised with B. pygmaea which happens a lot for some reason!
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fermi
Title: Re: Babiana
Post by: Charithea on August 25, 2015, 05:38:53 PM
They look beautiful.
Title: Re: Babiana
Post by: Fermi on October 07, 2015, 12:05:10 PM
One of the most unusual species is Babiana ringens which has evolved to be pollinated by sun-birds by developing a perch for them to hold onto while searching for nectar!
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fermi
Title: Re: Babiana ringens
Post by: Alisdair on October 08, 2015, 09:59:14 AM
Fermi, I saw this last week in South Africa, in a recent burn site, growing in pure granitic sand. Usually as you can see from the second picture they were flowering in or close to the skeleton of a burned bush, and one or two beautiful malachite sunbirds were flying from bush to bush then flying down to the top of the aborted flower stem, then hanging upside down to sip the nectar (thus also pollinating the flowers)...
Title: Re: Babiana
Post by: Fermi on October 12, 2015, 04:11:01 PM
Alisdair,
that must've been a wonderful sight!
Will you be posting more pics from South Africa?
It's some place I would love to see in spring!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Babiana
Post by: Alisdair on October 14, 2015, 03:47:28 PM
Yes, I hope to, Fermi. Today's MGS Facebook cover picture (http://www.facebook.com/mediterraneangardensociety) is of a Romulea we saw flowering in a recent burn site, but at the time couldn't decide on the species (even though I was with Brian Mathew and Oron Peri, as well as a few other friends).
But it'll take me time to sort out some pics!
Title: Re: Babiana 2016
Post by: Fermi on August 04, 2016, 09:11:18 AM
Last year we had severe frosts and all the flower buds on Babiana odorata were killed, but they have survived this year to produce some lovely blooms
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fermi
Title: Re: Babiana odorata and frost
Post by: Alisdair on August 05, 2016, 10:38:14 AM
Is that light hoar frost on them now, Fermi? Looks it from the second two pictures.
Title: Re: Babiana
Post by: anita on August 05, 2016, 09:04:43 PM
Hi Fermi, odorata suggests there's a scent. Is it easily discernable?
Title: Re: Babiana odorata and frost
Post by: Fermi on August 07, 2016, 03:33:08 PM
Is that light hoar frost on them now, Fermi? Looks it from the second two pictures.
Hi Alisdair,
I think there had been a light frost and those are the residual dew-drops.
Hi Fermi, odorata suggests there's a scent. Is it easily discernable?
Hi Anita,
it has a lovely sweet scent which is quite pleasant.
Sadly it crosses easily with Babiana pygmaea so there are hybrids around the garden and I didn't notice that they are in flower now so seed will most likely be hybridised. However if you're willing to take the chance I'll try and collect some seed for you,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Babiana
Post by: anita on August 08, 2016, 01:05:37 PM
Hi Fermi, I'm no purist - happy to take the risk of hybrids. Would love some seeds. Thanks!
Title: Re: Babiana
Post by: Fermi on August 14, 2016, 01:33:16 PM
Here are some pics of the hybrid between Babiana odorata and B. pygmaea
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Babiana
Post by: Alisdair on August 15, 2016, 08:44:54 AM
It looks as if you have wonderful growing conditions for those Babianas, Fermi!
Title: Re: Babiana
Post by: Fermi on August 15, 2016, 12:24:20 PM
Alisdair,
it's been a good season for these sorts of bulbs because of good winter rain.
These Babiana seedlings have sown themselves into raised beds as well as on the edge of beds where they have "good drainage".
We don't water the areas where they grow if we can help it during the summer.
The seedlings have been quite variable and the best open up wide and have a creamy yellow colour, but the two parents are excellent in their own rights,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Babiana
Post by: Fermi on August 28, 2016, 04:05:00 PM
Babiana pygmaea is now in flower,
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fermi
Title: Re: Babiana
Post by: Fermi on September 02, 2016, 10:44:43 AM
The Babiana odorata x B. pygmaea hybrids are making quite a show in the rock garden!
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fermi
Title: Re: Babiana
Post by: Fermi on September 17, 2016, 05:46:14 AM
Babiana villosa "Red Form" flowering nicely this year,
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fermi
Title: Re: Babiana
Post by: Alisdair on September 21, 2016, 06:07:36 PM
Terrific, Fermi!
Title: Re: Babiana sinuata
Post by: Fermi on September 23, 2016, 04:24:39 PM
Here's quite a different one - it looks like one of the "orchid gladiolus"!
Babiana sinuata, grown from seed from Being Seed, R.S.A, 2012, first flowering this week,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Babiana
Post by: Fermi on September 25, 2016, 01:53:03 PM
Another Babiana villosa, a slightly lighter in colour,
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fermi
Title: Re: Babiana
Post by: Fermi on September 26, 2016, 03:54:47 AM
"New" for us is Babiana scariosa growing in a sand-bed which had been over-shadowed for the last few years until a hedge was removed a few months ago,
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fermi
Title: Re: Babiana
Post by: Alisdair on September 26, 2016, 07:43:37 AM
When these South African bulbous plants suddenly flower en masse after a wildfire, I wonder how much it's the effects of the fire itself, and how much simply the removal of the overgrown vegetation around them - like your hedge here?
Title: Re: Babiana
Post by: Fermi on October 29, 2019, 04:35:59 PM
I think this is Babiana patersoniae flowering for the first time this past week having been sown about 2 years ago.
It's in a "community" trough after a tray of seed-pots  was upended and I swept up the debris into a foam box!
I don't think there was any other babianas but I'd better check!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Babiana
Post by: Alisdair on October 30, 2019, 05:35:12 AM
Lovely - this white form shows off the anthers so well. (Pacific Bulb Soc says it normally smells of cloves, strongest at night....might be a useful check).
Title: Re: Babiana
Post by: Fermi on October 30, 2019, 11:47:05 AM
Babiana spathacea grows quite upright when growing in full sun!
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fermi
Title: Re: Babiana
Post by: Fermi on November 01, 2019, 03:31:24 PM
First flowers of Babiana tubiflora for this year
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fermi
Title: Re: Babiana
Post by: Charithea on November 02, 2019, 01:11:05 PM
Fermi they are all so beautiful. Thank you for sharing. Our bulbs are shooting up as there was some heavy rain last week and also a drop in temperature
Title: Re: Babiana
Post by: Umbrian on November 03, 2019, 07:40:04 AM
Lucky escape for the Babiana patersoniae Fermi. They are very pretty and it just shows one should never give up when accidents happen.  :)
Glad to hear you have had some rain at last Charithea - we too are experiencing a drop in temperatures after a warm October and the forecast is for a wet start to November. The garden is still looking good though with Salvias the stars of the show.
Title: Re: Babiana
Post by: Fermi on November 05, 2019, 03:18:39 PM
Lovely - this white form shows off the anthers so well. (Pacific Bulb Soc says it normally smells of cloves, strongest at night....might be a useful check).
Hi Alisdair,
I couldn't smell anything but my partner says it has a scent but he couldn't say it was cloves.
There are 4 babianas which are going to flower but they are doing it in succession!
Here's the next to bloom - interesting green tips!
Thanks, Carole,
yes, I'm glad I was able to save this lot - another trayful ended up getting swept onto a neighboouring bed!
Charithea,
you're welcome! Glad you are getting rain - we had an inch over the last few days - as the bulbs are dying down I've been moving pots under cover to prevent them getting wet as the weather gets hot,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Babiana
Post by: Fermi on September 17, 2020, 09:18:03 AM
Babiana patersoniae is in flower again - I must remember to give them a sniff
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fermi
Title: Re: Babiana
Post by: Fermi on September 17, 2020, 09:23:07 AM
Babiana cedarbergensis is sweetly scented - because the flowers stay at soil level I prefer to grow it in a pot
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fermi
Title: Re: Babiana
Post by: Fermi on September 24, 2020, 02:38:17 PM
Babiana vanzyliae
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fermi
Title: Re: Babiana
Post by: Fermi on December 05, 2020, 03:03:45 PM
When re-potting the Babiana cedarbergensis I found a curiosity - some stems had little clusters of small cormlets developed below the surface of the potting mix
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fermi
Title: Re: Babiana
Post by: David Dickinson on December 06, 2020, 12:59:13 PM
I get little bulblets just like those in your photo on my hybrid Freesias. They come on the stem below ground level. Great way to double your stock.
Title: Re: Babiana
Post by: David Dickinson on April 14, 2021, 10:45:26 PM
Well, this is proving to be a strange year for me, Having had considerable success with Sparaxis for the first time, I now have Babiana stricta hybrids coming into flower. I have tried several times with these and never had leaves, never mind flowers!