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Plants for mediterranean gardens => Bulbs (including other geophytes with corms, tubers, rhizomes etc) => Topic started by: oron peri on February 24, 2013, 10:42:21 PM

Title: Tulips
Post by: oron peri on February 24, 2013, 10:42:21 PM
Tulipa agenesis in the N. Mediterranean coast of Israel is at its best at the moment.
This Spring is prommising as we have good rain seoson.
Photos were taken this afternoon. 
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Alisdair on February 25, 2013, 09:01:37 AM
Absolutely gorgeous, Oron - so different from the scruffy specimens we saw with you a couple of years ago, in dry conditions about three weeks later!
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Marilyn on February 25, 2013, 02:54:29 PM
Spectacular! What a colour! :)
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Trevor Australis on February 25, 2013, 11:10:47 PM
So-o-o-o  LUCKY Oron to have such beauty virtually on your doorstep. Thank you for sharing the beauty. What protection, if any, do plant populations such as this have? Are the colonies of bulbs widespread or located in very few sites? This is leading to a question: are seeds available from any one, or institutions such as botanic gardens.  Many years ago my mother-in-law brought me some seeds she said she'd collected on the plateau above Petra nr the hotel she was staying in. The seeds grew and eventually flowered revealing themselves to be beautiful scarlet tulips with a yellow basal patch. Altho' I have several books about tulip sp - Hall, Botschaneva and Dykes? I haven't been able to come up with any reliable ID.  tn
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: oron peri on February 26, 2013, 10:41:06 AM
Thanks Trevor,
The Tulip from Petra is Tulipa systola which is a desert species very similar to T. agenensis, it is distributed in the deserts of Israel, Palestine, syria, Jordan and all the way to Iran.
Tulipa agenensis is very common here and as all bulbuos plants in Israel it is highly protected by low.
It is even forbiden to collect seeds without a special permition.
Saying that... ask Marcus H., i think i have sent him seeds a couple of years ago.
I know there is a book on Tulip species which is due to be published in the near future in the UK.
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: JTh on February 26, 2013, 01:09:58 PM
Wonderful to see these nice flowers again, Oron, thank you.

I wonder if the the tulip in the photo I have from the trip to Israel two years ago is correctly named, I thought it was T. agenensis, but the leaves are much more wavy/curlier than those you have shown us here.
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: oron peri on February 26, 2013, 04:38:39 PM
Jorun, it is named correctly.
Tulipa agenensis that grow in semidesert conditions and dry coastl areas often have undulate leaves,
like many other bulbuose plants growing in these conditions it serves reducing evaporation by minimizing the leaf surface exposed to the sun. It creats some shade as well on the leaf it self in the same way some desert beatles do.
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Trevor Australis on February 26, 2013, 11:54:10 PM
Thanks Oron. I know Marcus Harvey quite well and will ask him about the tulip bulbs. These plants offer all Med gardeners such a fantastic resource. tn
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: JTh on February 26, 2013, 11:56:51 PM
Thank you, Oron. I did not think all the tulips we saw in the desert two years ago were scruffy, but they were certainly not as abundant as those in your photos here.
Title: Tulips
Post by: Daisy on March 18, 2013, 10:59:51 AM
I grow a few species tulips in my garden, but I have a soft spot for the big and blowsy Darwin and other tulips.
My husband,  (who is the cook in our house) complains, because when the bulbs arrive, they live in the vegetable drawer in the fridge for about 10 weeks before I plant them, to give them a chill period.
I use them in pots and they give a brilliant display for weeks.
I took these photos in February.

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These were taken in early March.

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march 2013 020 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/93752583@N02/8567333491/) by Daisyincrete (http://www.flickr.com/people/93752583@N02/), on Flickr

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march 2013 022 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/93752583@N02/8568447318/) by Daisyincrete (http://www.flickr.com/people/93752583@N02/), on Flickr

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march 2013 023 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/93752583@N02/8568446574/) by Daisyincrete (http://www.flickr.com/people/93752583@N02/), on Flickr

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march 2013 024 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/93752583@N02/8567347889/) by Daisyincrete (http://www.flickr.com/people/93752583@N02/), on Flickr

This one I took this morning. Darwin tulips are beautiful even when blown and bashed by strong winds.

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march 2013 016 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/93752583@N02/8567259735/) by Daisyincrete (http://www.flickr.com/people/93752583@N02/), on Flickr

Daisy :)





Title: Re: Darwin tulips
Post by: Trevor Australis on March 18, 2013, 10:54:51 PM
 ;) Lovely pics Daisy. Do you throw the bulbs away after they have flowered or do you try to fatten them up for the following year. Have you tried some of the multi-stemmed tulip hybrids which seem to fall somewhere between the species and the big Dutch hybrids?

We manage to keep some of the big 'Dutchies' going for years by burying the bulbs quite deeply. It seems they like this. I wonder if the more constant cool temps 12cm down is what does the trick?  tn
Title: Re: Darwin tulips
Post by: Daisy on March 20, 2013, 02:13:12 PM
Last year was the first time I had some Darwin Tulips.
I only had a few of one variety, but didn't try to keep them.
This year I have a few more and will probably try to keep them.
Even if I am unsuccessful, they are cheap and cheerful flowers to use simply as bedding.
Daisy :)
Title: Re: Darwin tulips
Post by: John on March 23, 2013, 11:35:39 PM
Normally I would suggest that you don't bother keeping bedding tulips for another season as they often split down to several none flowering bulbs unless fed very well. I have however had experience of Darwin types growing and flowering for many years left undisturbed in a London garden. As suggested I would agree to plant them deep especially in a mediterranean climate.
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: John on March 23, 2013, 11:51:30 PM
Hi, yes they do look totally different to the ones we saw on our visit, so lush.
In the western Algarve Rosie took us to a friends garden where in a wild area there was a lovely stand of Tulipa sylvestris. All of those we saw had a bronzing to the back of the flower to some degree. They were much more lush than those we saw in Montenegro last year and drooping probably as a response to the constant downpours.
Title: Tulipa australis
Post by: Fleur Pavlidis on April 07, 2014, 06:39:05 AM
Seen growing yesterday on Mt Hymettos in just one place but well spread.
Title: Tulips 2014
Post by: Fermi on August 27, 2014, 04:31:43 AM
A new tulip in our garden,
Tulipa montana
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips 2014
Post by: Fermi on August 28, 2014, 02:49:55 PM
Tulipa bakeri (now Tulipa saxatilis ssp bakeri - I find that the difference is that it doesn't "run" the way the species does)
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips 2014
Post by: Fermi on September 06, 2014, 03:02:41 PM
Tulipa greiggii - possibly 'Red Riding Hood'
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips 2014
Post by: Fermi on September 18, 2014, 12:54:04 PM
The Lady Tulip, Tulipa clusiana,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips 2014
Post by: Daisy on September 19, 2014, 06:52:17 AM
I love seeing the photos of your spring bulbs Fermi.
Seeing the tulips, reminds me of my frustration when I was working full time in England. They would open on sunny days, but would be closed tightly by the time I came home.
If the weekends were cloudy, the whole season would be gone without my ever seeing their open flowers.
Working sucks. Retirement rules, yeah!
Daisy :)
Title: Re: Tulips 2014
Post by: Fermi on September 20, 2014, 02:18:24 PM
Daisy,
I have to work a bit longer to be able to afford to garden! especially as we continue to buy new plants ;D
A new addition in the tulip line is this patch of double tulip 'Matrix' - they were planted rather late which might be why the stems are so short :-\
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips 2014
Post by: Fermi on September 23, 2014, 02:42:50 PM
Tulipa kolpakowskiana fergana group looks good when the sun is shining,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips 2014
Post by: Fermi on September 25, 2014, 01:57:43 AM
This is Tulipa chrysantha (syn T. clusiana ssp chrysantha) 'Tubergen's Gem'
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips 2014
Post by: Trevor Australis on September 25, 2014, 09:18:25 AM
Yes, but where can I get the Lady Tulip - white and pink. I had it years ago from an old guy in Sebastapol nr Ballarat and it made a great show for a long time but then petered out. I'd love to have it again now I am a bit more experienced in bulb growing.
Title: Re: Tulips 2014
Post by: Fermi on September 25, 2014, 01:52:23 PM
Hi Trevor,
You mean the one in reply #3 above? ;D
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips 2014
Post by: Daisy on September 25, 2014, 05:09:58 PM
I also grew Tulipa clusiana for many years in England, but have been unable to find it now.
There are plenty of named varieties, but the original is difficult to find.
One supplier told me that they are in short supply world wide. I don't know how true that is, but it is a bit worrying.
Daisy :)
Title: Re: Tulips 2014
Post by: Trevor Australis on September 25, 2014, 11:04:56 PM
Yes Fermi #3. I have two kinds of the yellow and red variation on T. clusiana but they lack the finesse of the pink and white kind.
Title: Re: Tulips 2014
Post by: Fermi on September 26, 2014, 07:12:12 AM
Yes Fermi #3. I have two kinds of the yellow and red variation on T. clusiana but they lack the finesse of the pink and white kind.
Hi Trevor,
the type species with pink exterior to the white flowers and a central purple blotch is one of the tulips that does well here in central Victoria. It multiplies quickly by underground "runners" or stolons so I'm sure I can spare you some if you can remind me in the summer. I also grow the red/yellow and the pink/primrose ('Cynthia') types as well as a dwarf ("T. aitchisonii ssp. clusioides") and I've flowered another variation which is a seedling from the selection 'Lady Jane' which doesn't have the basal blotch,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips 2014
Post by: Trevor Australis on September 27, 2014, 12:00:40 AM
Thanks Fermi. I will remind you later.
Title: Re: Tulips 2014
Post by: Fermi on September 28, 2014, 03:53:29 PM
My memory is getting worse all the time ("old-timers' disease" I'm afraid! ;D ) so you'll need to do that, Trevor. I'm still trying to remember the botanical name for a very common plant and I'm determined not to look it up before I think of it! (or forget that I was trying to think of it!)
Here are a few more tulips in bloom:
Tulipa hageri
Tulipa batalinii
Tulipa clusiana 'Cynthia' x 2
Tulipa albertii ( it might be T. vvedenskyi, I'm told - but my supplier imported it from Hoog many years ago as T. albertii)
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulipa clusiana
Post by: Alisdair on September 30, 2014, 09:37:41 AM
For Daisy and others looking for Tulipa clusiana, these two UK firms usually have it and do mail order:
Pottertons www.pottertons.co.uk
De Jager www.dejager.co.uk
Cynthia incidentally comes reasonably true from seed. But when I planted it out in our hot Greek garden it dwindled away and has now disappeared.
Title: Re: Tulips 2014
Post by: Fermi on October 07, 2014, 05:48:37 AM
In Australia Tulipa 'Little Princess' is often supplied when you request T. hageri, one of its parents,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips 2014
Post by: Fermi on October 08, 2014, 12:52:06 PM
Some hybrids in flower now:
'Sky High Scarlet'
'Ballade White'
'Moonshine' x 2
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Darwin tulips
Post by: Daisy on February 09, 2015, 08:45:17 AM
My local Lidl store had a selection of bulbs for sale last autumn.
There is no sign of the hyacinths I bought, but the Darwin tulips have been doing well.
Daisy :)

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Title: Re: Darwin tulips
Post by: Hilary on February 10, 2015, 05:42:53 PM
Daisy,
Your tulips are really lovely.
 The photos have cheered me up these last two days when everything which fell over in the last two storms fell over again in this one.
Title: Re: Darwin tulips
Post by: Daisy on February 11, 2015, 06:12:53 AM
Thanks Hilary. I should have taken a few more photos whilst I could.
I am sitting inside now, listening to the gale force wind, howl around the house and down the chimney.
Looking straight ahead out of the balcony doors, I can see the Mediterranean Sea white with spume, all along the shore.
I hate to think what is happening to my garden at present :o
This storm is forecast until the weekend.
At least we will get some rain with it.
Daisy :)

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Title: Tulips
Post by: Hilary on June 03, 2015, 04:05:18 PM
In the Jardin des Plantes in Paris, April
according to the labels they are
Tulipa 'Vendee Globe'
and
Tulipa ;Beau Monde'
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on October 01, 2015, 02:46:16 PM
We've had a good season for tulips!
The earliest one was in early August, a seed raised Tulipa orthopoda - very tiny and easy to miss!
Next was the pale Tulipa cretica in early September
A few days later a "stray" Tulipa kaufmanniana which was supposed to be something else!
It was supposed to be this Tulipa kolpakowskiana which opened a week later
Also in flower in mid-September was Tulipa stapfii
and Tulipa clusiana
Tulipa 'Toronto' has been re-introduced to the garden
And a few seedlings raised from Tulipa clusiana 'Lady Jane' opened in the rock garden through a carpet of artemisia
A few days later Tulipa montana opened a flower
Last year I posted a pic of this as T.kolpakowskiana but I've been told it's actually in the Tulipa ferganica group!
Tulipa 'Little Princess' last week,
cheers
fermi

Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on October 02, 2015, 01:29:05 PM
A few more tulips:
This came as Tulipa hageri 'Piccolo' but looks the same as 'Little Princess' to me!
Tulipa clusiana 'Cynthia' spreads a little by stolons;
One of the Apeldoorn clan of hybrids in orange
A deep pink Double Tulip
Double tulip 'Verona'
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Daisy on October 04, 2015, 08:23:27 AM
Thanks for the photos Fermi. They are all lovely, but my favourite are the cluisiana  tulips. I have loved these since the 1960s when I first saw them in Kew Gardens.
Daisy :)
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on October 04, 2015, 12:49:04 PM
Thanks for the photos Fermi. They are all lovely, but my favourite are the cluisiana  tulips. I have loved these since the 1960s when I first saw them in Kew Gardens.
Daisy :)
Hi Daisy,
one of my favourites as well, though "The Lady Tulip" does have a tendency to "run" - as here where it has travelled from one side of the bed to the other through a narrow gap!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on October 06, 2015, 11:58:01 AM
The "Viridiflora" types appeal to some but not everyone; this is 'Spring Green' which can look stunning when well-grown.
These were planted late and I think are a bit stunted,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Alisdair on October 08, 2015, 10:08:24 AM
Thanks from all of us northern hemisphere people for this wonderful promise of spring, Fermi; fantastic photos as usual!  :P
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Hilary on April 01, 2016, 10:56:16 AM
I thought I would have a few tulips in a pot this year but the hot February we had seemed to upset them.
The first ones opened out flat and not the tulip shape I expected.
Later one solitary tulip emerged in a well behaved fashion.
Title: Re: Tulips - 2016
Post by: Fermi on August 30, 2016, 10:01:36 AM
Our first tulips this season:
Tulipa cretica, flowering well,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on September 02, 2016, 10:29:56 AM
One of our most reliable species tulips is now called Tulipa saxatilis Bakeri Group 'Lilac Wonder' - quite a mouthful!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on September 10, 2016, 02:48:45 PM
The "type" species of Tulipa saxatilis is now in bloom,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on September 16, 2016, 01:27:59 PM
Tulipa clusiana;
close up;
Tulipa 'White Liberstar' and from above;
Double Tulip 'Margarita' (I think);
Lily-flowered tulip 'Seattle';
Tulipa stapfii;
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on September 22, 2016, 11:36:01 AM
Tulips in the rock garden;
Tulipa albertii;
Tulipa vvedenskyi x T. greigii;
Tulipa clusiana ex 'Lady Jane'
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on September 23, 2016, 04:45:28 PM
A week later and lily-flowered tulip 'Seattle' is making more of an impact;
Tulipa clusiana 'Cynthia' was open in the sun and a native bees was enjoying itself;
Tulipa kaufmanniana 'Heart's Delight';
Tulipa fergana Group;
Tulipa 'Spring Pearl';
Tulipa montana;
Tulipa 'Cape Cod';
Tulipa 'Plaisir'
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on October 02, 2016, 02:41:54 PM
More flowers open on Tulipa Cynthia this morning;
Tulipa 'Little Princess';
Tulipa aucheriana;
Tulipa 'Cape Cod'
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Alisdair on October 03, 2016, 09:27:19 AM
'Little Princess' is a very interesting shape for a tulip, Fermi. How tall are those flowers?
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on October 03, 2016, 12:59:08 PM
Hi Alisdair,
those ones are only a few inches high, somewhere around 3 in (6 or 7 cm), but in another bed they can get up to twice that height,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: robarco on October 14, 2016, 08:14:08 PM
Does anyone know whether T. linifolia needs pre-chilling? Also when would be the best time to plant - should I wait till the temps drop a bit? It's around 25C daytime high (77f) at the moment. Thanks!
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on October 15, 2016, 02:05:41 PM

This came as Tulipa hageri 'Piccolo' but looks the same as 'Little Princess' to me!

This year it's apparent that 'Piccolo' is a light orange compared to 'Little Princess'!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on October 15, 2016, 03:00:47 PM
Here is what we grow as Tulipa hageri 'Splendens'
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on October 28, 2016, 01:42:01 PM
Tulipa linifolia, first year we've had it so not sure if it is always so short,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips 2017
Post by: Fermi on September 12, 2017, 12:34:36 PM
Tulipa 'The First' making a fine display in the sunshine
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on September 17, 2017, 01:53:55 PM
Miriam sent me seed of Tulipa agenensis ssp sharonensis in 2010 and today we had the first flowers open!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Alisdair on September 17, 2017, 05:13:07 PM
Well done, Fermi: patience very amply rewarded!
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on September 18, 2017, 10:30:39 AM
Hi Alisdair,
it's a given that you need patience when growing tulips from seed ;D
Here are some grown from SRGC Seedex seed from Tulipa clusiana 'Tinka'
Sown in 2007!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on September 22, 2017, 03:37:54 PM
These have a softer coloured flower from the same batch of seed ex 'Tinka'
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on September 23, 2017, 04:59:24 AM
The type form of Tulipa clusiana, "The Lady Tulip"
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on October 08, 2017, 12:23:57 PM
1 & 2) Tulipa vvedensky 'Tangerine dream';
3 & 4) Tulipa clusiana (ssp chrysantha) 'Tubergen's Gem';
5 & 6) Tulipa clusiana 'Cynthia';
7 & 8)  Tulipa stapfii
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on August 27, 2018, 02:29:57 AM
This tiny thing is Tulipa orthopoda grown from AGS Seedex 2003 but we only found the first flower in 2014. This year it is flowering well.
Diane, the AGS Seedex director, found out that the seed was collected in the Tien Shan  in Kazakhstan by Jan Blokland from the Netherlands!  Talk about well travelled!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on September 08, 2018, 02:59:59 PM
Tulipa cretica is doing well this year
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on September 17, 2018, 03:18:02 PM
These are all forms of the "lady tulip" - Tulipa clusiana:
1) Tulipa clusiana
2) T.c.'Lady Jane'
3 & 4) T.c. 'Tinka'
5) T.c. seedling ex 'Tinka'
6) T.c. seedling ex 'Lady Jane'
7) T.c. possibly ssp chrysantha
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Hilary on September 17, 2018, 06:11:16 PM
What a joy your garden must be for you.
i love all the photos of tulips, daffodils and recently allium which you post
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on September 18, 2018, 03:32:47 PM
Hi Hilary,
it can be a joy but also a burden ;D There is also something to be done but what else would I do with my time!
Glad you are enjoying these pics while your weather has been so extreme - hopefully it is cooling down now.
The worst thing about seeing all the spring flowers is knowing that the summer and the fire season is not far behind :(
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on September 20, 2018, 04:41:56 PM
Tulipa agenensis ssp sharonensis is in flower again.
I have bulbs in 2 different locations; the first is the one that flowered last year and again is much the same. However one in another bed is much smaller (pic 2)
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Umbrian on September 21, 2018, 06:06:24 AM
I too enjoy seeing 'photos of your wonderful variety of bulbs Fermi and this year it has given me fresh enthusiasm to get mine planted. Last year I tried quite a few new varieties of Narcissus that I planted in pots and am looking forward to distributing them in the garden now I know how they perform. Labelling them and recording their position is always a problem for me - our numerous blackbirds seem to delight in pecking out markers I use....
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on September 24, 2018, 05:21:23 AM
I too enjoy seeing 'photos of your wonderful variety of bulbs Fermi and this year it has given me fresh enthusiasm to get mine planted.....
Hi Carole,
then my job here is done! ;D
I think this sort of Forum is great for us to encourage each other to grow things we might not have thought of before as well encouraging the exchange of plants and seeds.
Sadly recent changes in the regulations in Australia mean that we can no longer receive seeds that aren't commercially packaged :'(
We got an exemption for small distributors such as "Seeds of Peace" and the various Seed Exchanges but some of the inspectors just see that the seeds aren't in commercial packets so either destroy or return the seeds to the sender. We are worried that this may cause some sellers to stop sending seeds to Australia :(
On a happier note,here is Tulipa bakeri 'Lilac Wonder' (now offically Tulipa saxatilis Bakeri Group 'Lilac Wonder')
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Carole's note on Acidanthera murielae (and John's comment)
Post by: Alisdair on September 24, 2018, 12:14:40 PM
Just to say that I've moved this heartening story to the Gladiolus thread in this section: you can jump to it by clicking here (http://www.mgsforum.org/smf/index.php?topic=63.msg19096#msg19096).
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Umbrian on September 25, 2018, 06:42:15 AM
Thanks Alisdair - I realised I had posted in the wrong section but was rather short of time and let it stay - knowing I suppose you would correct my mistake!
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on September 30, 2018, 02:46:04 PM
Tulipa stapfii is doing well in the raised bed
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on October 02, 2018, 04:00:10 PM
Tulipa whitallii is flowering "well" - 6 blooms! It has "run" a lot in the last couple of years, even venturing into the path!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Charithea on October 02, 2018, 05:23:47 PM
VERY nice!
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Umbrian on October 03, 2018, 05:39:45 AM
Very pretty little Tulip Fermi, I love it when plants "run" as you so aptly put it, they look so
much more natural - a look I strive to achieve in my garden although some things have to be curbed from taking over.....
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Hilary on April 03, 2020, 06:50:34 AM
Tulipa Exotic Emperor

Yet another tulip seen in the Royal Botanic Garden, Madrid, April 2018.

Apparently this is a fosteriana tulip and what is more they are mentioned in
 THE MEDITERRANEAN GARDEN number 20, April 2000 in
A RABBINICAL GARDEN: PART2
By Nicholas Stavroulakis

Look at all the other posts on this thread, some of the photos are stunning

Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Hilary on April 27, 2020, 05:57:47 AM
Tulipa purissima

One of the tulips on display in the Royal Botanic Garden Madrid in April 2018

Apparently, this is a Fosteriana Tulip

Tulipa fosteriana is  mentioned in a book review in THE MEDITERRANEAN GARDEN number 80, April; 2015
FLORA OF THE SILK ROAD by Christopher and Basak Gardner
The review is written by Caroline Harbouri
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Hilary on April 29, 2020, 06:39:03 AM
Tulipa turkestanica

Another tulip seen in the Royal Botanic Garden Madrid
In April 2018

This tulip, as you imagine, is native to central Asia

There are many references to tulips both wild and cultivated in
 THE MEDITERRANEAN GARDEN

Today I recommend that you read GARDENER’S QUESTION TIME.
 by June Grindley
THE MEDITERRANEAN GARDEN Number 72,  April 2013
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Charithea on April 29, 2020, 12:54:37 PM
Hilary, have you tried growing tulips in pots? I have had not success as yet. I decided to leave them for people who have more patience and take better care of them.
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Hilary on April 29, 2020, 02:03:34 PM
I was given some tulip  bulbs a few years ago and one or two flowers appeared but the weather was too hot for them and they soon spoilt.
I used to pass through Amsterdam Airport   on my way to Newcastle. Several times I admired these wooden tulips and eventually decided to buy some.
Both my granddaughters had expressed, at different times, a wish to have a wooden tulip but I hardened my heart as we all know flowers have to be in odd numbers in a vase.
These decorate our bathroom in the spring
Title: Re: Tulips in pots
Post by: Alisdair on May 01, 2020, 08:47:49 AM
Charithea, Helena grows quite a lot in biggish terracotta pots. She puts 10 in ones with a top internal diameter of 25cm, and 20 in the bigger (about 33 cm) ones. She plants them in layers at varying depths. She buys her bulbs as collections of 20 or so from Sarah Raven (https://www.sarahraven.com/flowers/bulbs/tulip-collections), who lives just up the lane from us, waiting till her sale price comes down as the selling season ends (discounts of up to 60% eventually). She grows them in these pots just for the first year. After it we plant them out in the open ground.
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Charithea on May 01, 2020, 03:56:44 PM
Thank you Alisdair.  I have tried many times but obviously not the correct way. My sister brought me some from Holland and I managed to raise a black one, my neighbour/gardening friend gave me lots of bulbs last year. Her younger son brought 'fresh' bulbs from Holland. Nothing again and the ones in the ground produce only leaves. We have managed the last two years to grow some alliums but nothing spectacular. I have been blaming it on the climate but it just that I am not good at it.  Of course we have the beautiful Tulipa agenensis which do well higher up the hilly villages and Tulipa cypria which grow in the Northen part of Cyprus.  Neither available to buy.
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Umbrian on May 02, 2020, 08:12:57 AM
I am probably out on a limb here but I really do not find modern tulips very attractive and some of the recent introductions are, to my eye, positively hideous........they seem to have attracted attention for a long time for some reason with people going bankrupt over their passion to acquire coveted bulbs in the past. Such a far cry from the beauty of many of the species.....growing wild in places that enhance them.
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: John J on May 02, 2020, 09:18:00 AM
If you are out on a limb, Carole, then I'm out there with you. I've never found cultivated tulips to be very popular with the local population so they are not readily available for one thing. The ones that are on sale usually originate in Holland and so seem to have no affinity with the conditions they meet here. Tulips may have originated in this part of the world but the wild ones are a far cry from the pampered Prima donnas of the cultivated variety.
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Umbrian on May 03, 2020, 07:06:04 AM
I really find all the hybridising of species plants to be getting too much now. I am sure some plantsmen find it very satisfying but so often the bottom line is purely financial with one upmanship amongst gardeners ensuring a steady uptake of increasingly artificial looking plants. Hellebores spring to mind and the other day I saw a photograph of a fussy, frilly Pasque flower that bore no resemblance to the delicate beauty of the original..... in fact until reading the caption I had  no idea what it was.
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Hilary on May 06, 2020, 07:00:18 AM
Tulipa ‘Red Georgette’

A red tulip seen in the Royal Botanic Garden Madrid in April 2018

As you would expect there are many references to tulips in
 THE MEDITERRANEAN GARDEN

I was lucky enough to find an article, which I had not recommended before, mentioning tulips
ART AND NATURE:
SPRINGTIME IN THE MEDITERRANEAN
By Flavio Zanon issue number 16, Spring 1999

There is some information about this tulip on the website of the RHS
https://www.rhs.org.uk/Plants/76832/Tulipa-Red-Georgette-(5)/Details
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Hilary on May 10, 2020, 06:19:25 AM
Tulipa ‘Princess Irene’

Another tulip seen in the Royal Botanic Garden Madrid  in April 2018.

This tulip must open later than the others and look at how tightly packed they are in the pot

Tulips are mentioned by Olivier Filippi
In HOW PLANTS COPE WITH DRYNESS:
MECHANISMS OF ADAPTATION

THE MEDITERRANEAN GARDEN  number 48, April 2007
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Hilary on May 18, 2020, 05:29:38 AM
Tulipa ‘Golden Apeldoorn’

A tulip seen growing in the Royal Botanic Garden, Madrid in April 2018

Apeldoorn is a town in Holland

Tulips are mentioned in THE MEDITERRANEAN GARDEN number 11, Winter 1997/8 in
THE FLORA OF OTTOMAN GARDENS. II
 FLOWERING PLANTS by Nicholas Stavroulakis
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Hilary on May 25, 2020, 06:00:55 AM
Tulipa ’Pink Diamond’

Seen in the Royal Botanic Garden, Madrid in April 2018

Only one or two of these tulips were open in early April and the one I snapped had a friend / photobomber next to it

Tulips are mentioned in THE MEDITERRANEAN GARDEN number 69, July 2012 in WHY DO WE GARDEN ? by June Grindley
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Hilary on August 28, 2020, 05:44:03 PM
Tulipa sylvestris
More tulips seen in the Royal Botanic Garden, Madrid in April 2018

Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on September 17, 2020, 03:47:23 PM
Tulipa 'fergana Group' clusiana var chrysantha in full bloom when the sun is shining
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on September 24, 2020, 02:17:28 PM
Tulipa clusiana 'Cynthia'
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on September 24, 2020, 02:31:46 PM
Tulipa 'Little Beauty'
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on September 24, 2020, 04:17:28 PM
Tulipa bakeri (now considered to be Tulipa saxatilis "Bakeri Group") 'Lilac Wonder'
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on September 24, 2020, 04:24:34 PM
We also grow some of the "Dutch Hybrid" Tulips !
This is Tulipa 'Royal Virgin' which I think we got last year or the year before. It seems to be settled in
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on September 24, 2020, 04:27:25 PM
We got some new ones this year this is Tulipa 'Belicia' - a double, multi-flora type
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: David Dickinson on September 24, 2020, 08:38:54 PM
Hi Fermi. I never knew there was such a thing as a multi-flowered tulip. We live and learn! I'll have a look on the internet and see what other types there are.

Cheers
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on September 25, 2020, 05:19:18 AM
Hi David,
a couple of species tulips also are "multiflora" such as Tulipa saxatilis.
Here's another new one: Tulipa 'Versace'
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Charithea on September 25, 2020, 04:33:14 PM
Thank you Firmi for the lovely photos. I have not been reading the post as I have been rather busy.We are having a Greek wedding in the family tomorrow.
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on September 29, 2020, 04:36:28 PM
Hi Charithea,
I hope the wedding went well. We haven't got any weddings in the family at the moment which is just as well because in Victoria  the restrictions limit the number of people who can attend - and the bridal party are the only ones who are allowed to dance!
On a happier note here is an orange Parrot Tulip which came up in one of the beds but neither of us remember planting it there! It closes up at night (last pic).
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on September 29, 2020, 04:40:02 PM
The patch of new tulips are looking even better as they mature
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on September 29, 2020, 04:43:14 PM
Tulipa 'Mascotte' is another new one we got this year. The first 3 pics are from 24th September and the last was yesterday
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on September 30, 2020, 05:33:34 AM
Tulipa 'Daytona' is another new one - I initially didn't like the "fringed" types but they are growing on me ;D
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on September 30, 2020, 05:37:10 AM
Tulipa 'Yellow Crown' - another "non-classical" shape
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on September 30, 2020, 06:47:00 AM
Tulipa 'Money Maker' - one of the Lily-Flowered types
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on September 30, 2020, 06:48:52 AM
Tulipa 'Synaeda King' - another Lily-Flowered tulip
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on September 30, 2020, 11:02:47 AM
Tulipa albertii - although we got it under this name some people have said it's T. vvedenskyi!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on October 02, 2020, 11:00:10 AM
Tulipa aucheriana over a couple of weeks
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on October 02, 2020, 11:10:42 AM
Tulipa hageri 'Splendens' doesn't flower for us  every year - if it's too dry early in spring the buds don't develop . I was pleased to see this one in flower in one of the raised beds
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on October 02, 2020, 03:40:09 PM
Tulipa agenensis ssp sharonensis from a couple of weeks ago
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on October 03, 2020, 09:53:08 AM
Tulipa 'Orange Balloon'
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on October 13, 2020, 02:59:40 PM
Tulipa 'Orange Balloon' has a few more blooms open now
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Charithea on October 14, 2020, 04:55:47 PM
Lovely
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on October 22, 2020, 01:21:43 AM
Can't find the label but pretty sure this is Tulipa 'Blue Parrot'
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on September 27, 2021, 12:43:26 PM
This year the Tulipa clusiana varieties have been particularly floriferous.
Firstly 'Lady Jane'
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on September 27, 2021, 04:15:58 PM
Next, Tulipa clusiana 'Tinka' - pics taken a few days apart
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on September 27, 2021, 04:18:51 PM
Tulipa clusiana 'Cynthia'
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on September 27, 2021, 04:20:26 PM
Tulipa clusiana chrysantha
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on September 27, 2021, 04:30:20 PM
The type form of Tulipa clusiana with its dark central blotch
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Charithea on September 27, 2021, 06:15:55 PM
Wow Fermi. So very beautiful.
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Umbrian on September 28, 2021, 08:10:22 AM
Hybrid tulips leave me cold but as Charithea said these are very beautiful as indeed are many of the different species ones you have 😊
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: David Dickinson on September 28, 2021, 09:41:40 AM
I had never been interested in tulips either, Umbrian, until a bulb dealer persuaded me to try Tulipa clusiana chrysantha
Delicate flowers with a beautiful colour on the reverse side of the petal.

I thought that species tulips had won me over and I tried the red Tulipa wilsoniana but I am less impressed, It is more like a miniature version of a hybrid.

The white form of T. clusiana that Fermi shows looks like another one to explore - and there is a plant fair coming up in October too. Finally! Perfect timing :-)
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: David Dickinson on September 28, 2021, 10:12:45 AM
I just had a look at a couple of the bulb sellers who, I think, will be a the plant fair https://www.landriana.com/eventi/

www.florianabulbose.com/ have a selection of species tulips available including T. clusiana 'Lady Jane' and 'Cynthia'

www.raziel.it also have a selection of species tulips including some T. clusiana varieties. Tulipa batalinii 'Yellow Jewel' looks potentially interesting in Raziel's photo. Other photos on the www show it to be more like the showy hybrids in form. Heavy-looking flowers and thick, dare I say it, ugly leaves. Last time I wrote something as subjective as that (re cypress trees) I got a mauling. Too late for the lips-sealed emoticon now me thinks  :-X
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on September 28, 2021, 03:15:05 PM
I had never been interested in tulips either, Umbrian, until a bulb dealer persuaded me to try Tulipa clusiana chrysantha
Delicate flowers with a beautiful colour on the reverse side of the petal.
...The white form of T. clusiana that Fermi shows looks like another one to explore - and there is a plant fair coming up in October too. Finally! Perfect timing :-)
There are quite a few species tulips that are worth looking at, David. The ones that come form the Mediterranean are definitely worth searching out.
Tulipa saxatilis and T. bakeri (now called T. saxatilis "Bakeri Group") are indistinguishable in appearance but I find the first is more inclined to "run" and needs to be fenced in to flower well.
The first pics is Tulipa saxatilis and the next 4 are T. bakeri,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Fermi on October 09, 2021, 03:56:03 AM
Some of the tulips are better this year but most of the larger hybrids have "gone backwards" ::)
1) Tulipa hageri 'Splendens'
2) Tulipa 'Flaming Parrot'
3) Tulipa linifolia 'Red Hunter'
4) Tulipa 'Little Beauty'
5) a mix of hybrids
6) Tulipa 'Mascotte'
7) Tulipa 'White Heart'
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulips
Post by: Charithea on October 09, 2021, 12:26:28 PM
What a wonderful selectin Fermi. Thank you for sharing them with us.  We still have not had ANY rain so No bulbs flowering.