Charithea and John kindly gave me some seed and it has come up for me but is yet to flower - my fault as I kept all the seedlings in a very small pot for a long time, Hoping for flowers soon. Thanks to you both for the seeds.
My main purpose in writing is to say to Umbrian to hold on to some of the seed, I have read that it is not hardy in our parts but that it is a variety of which the seeds come true. Hope that the first fact is not true and that the second one is. Let's see.