It is a plant I have seen both in the north and south of Italy, always growing out of walls. Always very long stems but little leaf cover. Does anybody grow it? Is it better, fuller, when it has soil to grow in or is it always so scrawny? I took seeds just in case. Apologies if I am under-rating anybody's favourite plant. Perhaps I shouldn't be so unkind to it. After all, if it can survive full summer heat in Lecce without any water and only a dry stone wall for its roots, it has to be tough.