Pamela. I don't grow Honorine Jobert yet, but I do have Konigin Charlotte and Pamina.
Pamina was planted two years ago and is growing strongly and spreading well.
Queen Charlotte, was only planted a year ago and is growing strongly, but not yet spreading.
Pamina and one plant of Queen Charlotte are planted in full summer shade, under an apricot tree.
The other plant of Queen Charlotte is also near the apricot tree, but is in sun until about noon.
They do behave differently here in Crete compared to the U.K.
They don't start flowering until much later. They are truly autumn flowering here.
Mine are not yet in flower. There are plenty of buds to open soon though.
Pamina in bud today.
Konigin Charlotte in bud today.
I will take more photos when they are open.
Daisy