What sad news. Although I never met Sally personally, I did see one of the videos she featured in. It was that which inspired me to get a Salvia discolor and it, or cuttings from it, have been with me ever since. Of course, the very fact that I am using this forum is in large part due to Sally as she was one of the founding members of the MGS. Thanks for passing on this news Umbrian. Thanks too, Sally, for bringing so many like-minded people together.