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Plant identification => Plant identification => Topic started by: David Dickinson on September 29, 2012, 01:24:10 AM

Title: Can anybody identify this? ID'd by Oron as Vernonia, perhaps V. gigantea
Post by: David Dickinson on September 29, 2012, 01:24:10 AM

Firstly, apologies if this message pops up 2 or 3 times - I have been trying to send it with a photo attached but the image was too large. However, on my final attempt with the image an acceptable "the computer says you've already sent this message". Let's see :-)

The plant is in the Rome Botanical Gardens. It's about 2m high. Lots of long thin stems coming from a central point which branch a little as they get towards the top. Mostly seed heads now but still some flowers.

Once it is identified I will send the seeds I collected to the MGS seed exchange for anybody who might be interested in growing it.

Title: Re: Can anybody identify this plant for me?
Post by: pamela on September 29, 2012, 08:10:02 AM

Caryopteris x clandonensis??

Title: Re: Can anybody identify this plant for me?
Post by: Umbrian on September 30, 2012, 06:43:00 AM

That was my first thought Pamela but the leaves are not right - Caryopteris has smaller leaves with regularly indented edges - at least mine does :)

Title: Re: Can anybody identify this plant for me?
Post by: Jill S on September 30, 2012, 10:10:18 AM

Caryopteris but perhaps just not Caryopteris x clandonensis 'Heavenly Blue'?

Title: Re: Can anybody identify this plant for me?
Post by: David Dickinson on October 03, 2012, 12:05:16 AM

Thank you for your replies so far. Very helpful. :)

Here is another picture showing the seed heads.

The plant seemed much more open than the images I have found on the internet following your suggestions.

Title: Re: Can anybody identify this plant for me?
Post by: oron peri on October 05, 2012, 07:39:26 PM

David,

It was not easy to tell the family, but finally i realised it is a compositae!
From there i arrived to the genus Vernonia [might be gigantea], but i'm afraid i can not tell which species from your photos.
It has a suphisticated structure as the pollen [anthers] are located at the base of the style.

Title: Re: Can anybody identify this? ID'd by Oron as Vernonia, perhaps V. gigantea
Post by: David Dickinson on October 09, 2012, 11:34:13 PM

Thanks for the solution.  :)

Will get the seeds off to seed exchange asap. Currently sorting out the seeds from asteriscus maritimus also to send to the seed exchange. They are delaying things a little as they are small and not so easy to separate!

Title: Re: Can anybody identify this? ID'd by Oron as Vernonia, perhaps V. gigantea
Post by: Alisdair on October 10, 2012, 07:36:56 AM

David, When you send the seeds of the "asteriscus", please will you label them as Pallenis maritima (syn. Asteriscus maritimus), as that's the currently accepted name.

Title: Re: Can anybody identify this? ID'd by Oron as Vernonia, perhaps V. gigantea
Post by: David Dickinson on October 12, 2012, 09:10:57 AM

Will do. Thanks for the info. :)

Title: Re: Can anybody identify this? ID'd by Oron as Vernonia, perhaps V. gigantea
Post by: John on November 10, 2012, 02:59:59 PM

It could also possibly be Vernonia altissima? Difficult to tell isn't it without more structural details.