fluffy climber IDd by Mike Hardman and Jorun as Clematis vitalba

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Hilary

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fluffy climber IDd by Mike Hardman and Jorun as Clematis vitalba
« on: November 04, 2011, 06:04:49 PM »
We saw a lot of this around Kastoria and near Prespa lakes in October.
Does any one know what it is?
I am sure I should remember what it is but don't

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Re: fluffy climber
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2011, 08:07:04 AM »
Clematis vitalba - 'old man's beard', or if not that species, a close relative
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Re: fluffy climber
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2011, 08:44:49 AM »
Thanks Mike.
I Googled fluffy climber or something similar last night and came up with the same answer.
The bushes must be pretty in the summer when the flowers are out.
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Re: fluffy climber
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2011, 09:05:12 AM »
In summer, the flowers are nice though small; like many a wild plant, close inspection is warranted to appreciate their simple beauty. This is a vigorous climber. I grew up with it as a kid, living in the countryside on the chalk of the North Downs, in SE England. It would scramble up through trees and grow as they grew, leaving the trees with considerable trunks and the Clematis with considerable vines hanging a long way down from them. They were most excellent for swinging on, Tarzan fashion! :)
Ahh - them were the days.
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Hilary

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Re: fluffy climber
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2011, 07:16:54 PM »
Saw this in Sparta a couple of weeks ago.
There were some fluffy balls of seeds nearby but not as fluffy as the ones we saw in the north of Greece.
Saying that we passed by lots of trees covered in large fluffy seed balls on the mountain road between Tripolis and Sparta.
In the spring we will stop and look at the flowers there.
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Re: fluffy climber
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2011, 08:40:56 PM »
Hilary, if you take a closer look at those fluffy seedballs now, you should be able to see if it's a Clematis vitalba or C. flammula. The first one produces more fluff than C. flammula, but even the latter one has very feathery seedballs, see the first of the photos, but the seed itself of C. flammula is much bigger (second photo) than that of C. vitalba (third photo), which has longer feathery appendixes.
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Re: fluffy climber
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2011, 07:09:48 AM »
Wow, Thanks for the reply.
How silly of me not to take a photo of the seeds I saw in Sparta.
If they are still there the next time we go down I will certainly will.
Your photos are so clear, lovely 
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« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2011, 10:19:42 AM »
I didn't know the difference between these two species until this autumn. There is a thread from 22. June which was started by Cali about distinguishing between C. vitalba and C. flammula, thanks to this I had a closer look in the autumn and I discovered that we had both species in our neighbourhood in Halkidiki.
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Re: fluffy climber
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2011, 10:22:02 AM »
I had another look at you photo, both seeds and leaves really look like C. vitalba.
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