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Plant identification => Plant identification => Topic started by: MikeHardman on January 26, 2017, 05:00:39 PM

Title: Sprawler ID'd by John Joynes as Gynura procumbens (longevity spinach)
Post by: MikeHardman on January 26, 2017, 05:00:39 PM
The photos show cuttings from a small plant (about 15cm tall, 30cm across) growing in a pot on an outside window sill in Polis, Cyprus.
The owners have been picking and eating the leaves raw for some while.

Other info:
They say it does not flower.
The leaves are up to 12cm long incl. petiole; they are slightly succulent in nature.
Apparently it roots readily in water (hence me trying these pieces).
It does not smell of anything, or (so they tell me) taste of much.

Any pointers gratefully received,
Mike
Title: Re: well, it is a plant, but I need a bit more help!
Post by: Joanna Savage on January 27, 2017, 06:23:50 PM
Hello Mike, perhaps your plant could be a Vietnamese coriander, or Laksa plant, one of the Persicarias? There is a great variety of leaf coloration and flowers are usually insignificant. But I am not sure about the 'slightly succulent' feature. Joanna
Title: Re: well, it is a plant, but I need a bit more help!
Post by: MikeHardman on January 27, 2017, 10:02:38 PM
Thanks for the suggestion, Joanna,

I've gone through Polygonum, etc. without finding a match.
The leaves are slightly but distinctly succulent, along the lines of purslane (Portulaca oleracea).

Maybe I see hints of Caryophyllaceae, eg. Celosia, but I have not found a match, but then there are many genera...

Mike
Title: Re: well, it is a plant, but I need a bit more help!
Post by: John J on January 29, 2017, 06:49:36 AM
Mike, your plant looks like one that was being grown by the owner of the aquaponics that the Branch visited last year (see TMG No 84). It's known as Longevity Spinach and is believed to lower blood pressure and sugar levels, botanical name, Gynura procumbens. Take a look and see what you think.
Title: Re: well, it is a plant, but I need a bit more help! [solved: Gynura procumbens]
Post by: MikeHardman on January 29, 2017, 09:42:33 AM
John,

Fantastic!
I'm almost certain that's the one. The only issue is that the original plant does not climb/twine/sprawl - but that may just be because it is perpetually being nipped back for consumption by its owners (hence also the lack of observed flowering).

It certainly seems to be a wonder plant medicinally, judging by:
'Gynura procumbens: An Overview of the Biological Activities'
Hui-Li Tan,1 Kok-Gan Chan, Priyia Pusparajah, Learn-Han Lee and Bey-Hing Goh
Frontiers in Pharmacology, 2016; 7: 52.
- https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4791373/

Plenty of other online info, too, eg:
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XN5m3-jdBo
- http://www.ashitabaplant.com/2015/12/gynura-procumbens.html (skip the bit about Ashitaba at the start)

I've tried eating a leaf today, now I know it is safe! It has a pleasant very mild taste. I shall be eating it more often once I've got it going.

cheers,
Mike
Title: Re: Sprawler ID'd by John Joynes as Gynura procumbens (longevity spinach)
Post by: Joanna Savage on January 29, 2017, 12:45:10 PM
John and Mike, that's an excellent piece of sleuthing , John. Who would ever have thought of Asteraceae?

Now I see scope for confusion with its fellow Asteraceae, Cynara, globe artichoke, and Gynura. It would be interesting to know who did the naming and why those names were chosen, for one or both plants.
Title: Re: Sprawler ID'd by John Joynes as Gynura procumbens (longevity spinach)
Post by: JTh on January 29, 2017, 02:45:27 PM
I don't think there is any connection between those who named these two plants. The genus Cynara comes from the Greek word  'kynara', whicjh means artichoke. I'm not able to find anything about the origine of the name Gynura, but the genus is endemic to Asia.
Title: Re: Sprawler ID'd by John Joynes as Gynura procumbens (longevity spinach)
Post by: John J on January 29, 2017, 03:48:16 PM
Jorun, I think you'll find that Gynura comes from Greek also, that is gyne (female) and oura (a tail). Apparently this is due to them having a long stigma. Who'd believe the workings of the minds of these early plant-namers?  ???
Title: Re: Sprawler ID'd by John Joynes as Gynura procumbens (longevity spinach)
Post by: JTh on January 29, 2017, 05:30:34 PM
Thank you, John, that sounds logical, where did you find that information?
Title: Re: Sprawler ID'd by John Joynes as Gynura procumbens (longevity spinach)
Post by: John J on January 29, 2017, 07:11:23 PM
From William T Stearn and his Dictionary of Plant Names for Gardeners.