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MikeHardman

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NOW SOLVED: Guess what this is 11
« on: September 08, 2011, 12:00:37 PM »
About time I contributed something...
This was growing in a sort of mini-botanical garden in Cyprus.
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Re: Guess what this is 11
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2011, 12:49:04 PM »
Lilly Pilly  Acmena smithii ??
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Re: Guess what this is 11
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2011, 02:32:23 PM »
No, but (like Acmena) it is native to Australia/Far East
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« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2011, 05:46:06 PM »
Fagraea berteriana?
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« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2011, 07:59:09 PM »
No, but (like Fagraea) it is an Asterid
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« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2011, 11:27:36 AM »
I think it's a Boraginaceae and it's probably Cordia myxa?
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Re: Guess what this is 11
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2011, 11:44:07 AM »
Well done John - Yes it is Cordia, actually C. dichotoma - you are close enough.

This is a tree I had never seen before, and I can't say it was particularly elegant, but the berries were nice.
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« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2011, 03:03:39 PM »
The berries may be nice, Mike, but the use to which they are put is far from it. Cordia myxa is grown in Cyprus almost entirely for these berries as they are used to make the 'glue' that coats the lime sticks that trap the songbirds that are considered such a delicacy when pickled. An illegal activity that, unfortunately, is still quite common and very lucrative.
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« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2011, 05:51:53 PM »
Oh dear; not nice to know, but thanks for the info anyway
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« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2011, 10:57:29 PM »
I recognised it at least generically because I photographed it on Crete last October though this one was labelled Cordia obliqua.
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« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2011, 05:05:55 AM »
I think you'll find that Cordia obliqua is a syn of C. myxa.
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« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2011, 07:35:03 AM »
OK thanks.
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« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2011, 11:55:15 AM »
Just to elaborate a little on the use of Cordia myxa berries in the production of the 'glue' used on lime-sticks here in Cyprus. BirdLife Cyprus estimate that over 89,000 songbirds were caught in mist-nets and on lime-sticks in the first week of September alone. This illegal activity is big business worth over 15 million euros annually with pickled songbirds selling for up to 90 euros a dozen. A very difficult situation for the authorities to deal with when there are certain Members of Parliament openly boasting about how many they can eat at a sitting.
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« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2011, 04:45:39 PM »
They ought to be sprayed with this glue mixed with feathers.
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