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Helichrysum tentatively IDd by Oron as Helichrysum cymosum subsp. cymosum

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MikeHardman

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Helichrysum tentatively IDd by Oron as Helichrysum cymosum subsp. cymosum
« on: July 08, 2012, 03:56:02 PM »
At Nassos Ktorides' garden at Delikipos near Nicosia, Cyprus (MGS visit), we noticed this low spreading plant, thought by Yiannos to be a Helichrysum, but we didn't know the species. Any ideas?
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Re: Helichrysum sp......
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2012, 05:15:16 PM »
Mike can you make a closeup?
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Re: Helichrysum sp......
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2012, 07:49:58 AM »
Oron, I can't re-visit the plant. The best I can do is give you a blow-up of part of the same photo - hope this helps.
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Re: Helichrysum sp......
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2012, 10:31:56 AM »
That is a difficult one...I'll try to come up with an answer.
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Re: Helichrysum sp......
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2012, 08:29:29 PM »
Sally and I are also waiting for an identification of this plant. We just can't find it anywhere.
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Re: Helichrysum sp......
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2012, 08:49:14 AM »
It looks rather like Helichrysum conglobatum, and as that does hybridise with other species I wonder whether it might be a hybrid with that.
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Re: Helichrysum sp......
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2012, 09:48:39 AM »
That's a thought, Alisdair.
And it prompts me to point out that it is only a few cm high.
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Re: Helichrysum sp......
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2012, 10:09:39 AM »
Not H. conglobatum This is a spreading groundcover. You saw it in my garden, Alisdair - I've left a bit of the house in the photo so that you understand where it is. I don't think it's Greek.
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« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2012, 06:34:10 PM »
Yes I remember now, Helena and I rather coveted it, didn't we! It's certainly shorter than conglobatum.
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« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2012, 05:47:56 AM »
« Last Edit: July 13, 2012, 06:14:51 AM by oron peri »
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« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2012, 08:10:33 AM »
Ooh I think that looks very likely, Oron - thank you.
Interesting to read 'subshrub up to 1 m tall'; I guess I could believe that of the plant I saw, given time and allowed to sprawl over itself and other subshrubs.
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Re: Helichrysum tentatively IDd by Oron as Helichrysum cymosum subsp. cymosum
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2012, 03:54:11 PM »
H. conglobatum is a Greek native and it is very common on Crete. It doesn't look like this species. I'm agreeing with you, probably a South African.
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